Category talk:HTML
Latest comment: 12 years ago by Equinox in topic RFV discussion: May–December 2011
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The following members of Category:HTML have been nominated for verification, presumably as they are listed as English, though in reality, they aren't. Listed in subsections as follows:
bgcolor[edit]
Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
cellpadding[edit]
Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
cellspacing[edit]
Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
colspan[edit]
Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
nbsp[edit]
Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- google groups:"an|a|the nbsp after|before|in" suffices to show use in English. Someone with knowledge of what collocates to use in other Usenet-popular languages can run a similar search for them.—msh210℠ (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest changing the language header to translingual. It's not really English.--Dmol 08:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- That's an excellent first step; the second issue, for me, I'm not the original tagger, that was Hippietrail in 2007, the second question is are these words in any language? Do they convey meaning for a human reader? Granted that's purely an RFD issue. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think that these are purely English initialisms, acronyms and abbreviations. Nbsp, for example stands for the English words non-breaking space (c.f. the nbsp character), and surely not any other words in any other languages. The unicode then ends with a semicolon, much like how the period is a stopper to the end of a sentence. TeleComNasSprVen 01:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you want to find citations for these in English, go ahead. --Mglovesfun (talk) 15:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not in that form, it isn't [1]. The attested versions of the term in the link always have an ampersand preceding the term and a semicolon following it, even though they are declarations of the unicode character. Having them treat it as a single form, however, would mean that nbsp needs to be changed to " " as an entry title. TeleComNasSprVen 00:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Again, could that be attested in English with any sort of 'meaning'? Is it a noun, or what? --Mglovesfun (talk) 13:43, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's like the literally thousands of keywords in computer programming languages. Not dict material. Equinox ◑ 15:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Should be moved to WT:RFD. Used as jargons by a very limited group of people who deal with programming on a regular basis. Next thing you know people will start including common SQL commands like DBCC, sp_who and etc... Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 04:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Did no one notice the link I posted above to a list of sufficiently many hits, without ampersands, in running English text, of this term?—msh210℠ (talk) 06:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Should be moved to WT:RFD. Used as jargons by a very limited group of people who deal with programming on a regular basis. Next thing you know people will start including common SQL commands like DBCC, sp_who and etc... Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 04:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's like the literally thousands of keywords in computer programming languages. Not dict material. Equinox ◑ 15:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Again, could that be attested in English with any sort of 'meaning'? Is it a noun, or what? --Mglovesfun (talk) 13:43, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not in that form, it isn't [1]. The attested versions of the term in the link always have an ampersand preceding the term and a semicolon following it, even though they are declarations of the unicode character. Having them treat it as a single form, however, would mean that nbsp needs to be changed to " " as an entry title. TeleComNasSprVen 00:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you want to find citations for these in English, go ahead. --Mglovesfun (talk) 15:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think that these are purely English initialisms, acronyms and abbreviations. Nbsp, for example stands for the English words non-breaking space (c.f. the nbsp character), and surely not any other words in any other languages. The unicode then ends with a semicolon, much like how the period is a stopper to the end of a sentence. TeleComNasSprVen 01:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- That's an excellent first step; the second issue, for me, I'm not the original tagger, that was Hippietrail in 2007, the second question is are these words in any language? Do they convey meaning for a human reader? Granted that's purely an RFD issue. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- [[nbsp]] passes RFV. - -sche (discuss) 19:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Failed the others. Equinox ◑ 15:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)