Category talk:Unsupported titles

Contrast Category:Terms containing unencoded characters, for terms with characters that cannot be displayed correctly anywhere (either in titles or the entry 'body') because they have not been encoded into Unicode. - -sche (discuss) 06:49, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Entries whose titles have unencoded characters are a subset of entries whose titles are unsupported, aren't they? A character not being encoded in Unicode is one of multiple possible reasons for a title to be unsupported. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 06:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I suggest merging both categories. Maybe we could also have specific subcategories like these, but I'm fine with either having or not having the subcategories:

• Category:Unsupported titles
  • Category:Titles containing encoded but unsupported characters
  • Category:Titles containing unencoded characters
  • Category:Titles starting with unsupported prefixes
  • Category:Titles longer than 256 bytes

--Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

IMO that conflates "titles" and "terms"/strings. The difference as I see it is that with CAT:Unsupported titles, the title being unsupported by the wiki software is the specific issue. With CAT:Terms containing unencoded characters, there's no specific problem with titles: there's a general problem that the terms can't display correctly anywhere. Anywhere includes titles, so there is some kinship between the categories (I intended my posts on the talk pages as a less obtrusive form of cross-linking than {{also}}), but it also includes translations tables, etc, and categorizing the entries into CAT:Unsupported titles (or *CAT:Terms that don't display in Translations tables", etc), seems overly narrow.- -sche (discuss) 21:46, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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Category:Unsupported titles, Category:Entries with wrong titles due to technical limitations

These two categories are duplicate and the meaning of these categories is unclear. (these are also unsupported titles)

Propose to:

1. Delete one of them and add all pages of [1] to the other
2. Create a new category, probably named Category:Entries which titles containing unencoded CJKV characters

--2001:DA8:201:3512:5CA3:FD48:C75A:557E 17:43, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

You might be right in the possibility of an overlap between these two categories, but I'm not so sure about the new category suggestion. {{wrongtitle}} is in no way restricted to CJKV characters, it's just that those were the first to be tagged with this template. Conceivably, terms in other scripts with characters outside Unicode could be placed into it as well. NMaia (talk) 00:52, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I thought the "unsupported titles" category was where our "Unsupported titles/" pages went — those titles that can be typed, and that display correctly in most places, but that cannot appear in titles due to technical limitations. I do not know why the "wrongtitle" entries are also in the "unsupported titles" category as well as the "wrong title" category, or why our "Unsupported titles/" aren't in that category (I suggest they should go [back?] into it).

The "wrong title" category could be renamed along the lines you suggest, but without "CKJV": how about "Terms containing unencoded characters", since the defining things is that the terms use characters that cannot be typed, rather than merely that the title is problematic? - -sche (discuss) 01:44, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I like this proposal. NMaia (talk) 17:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I've (re)populated the "unsupported titles" category, and renamed the "unencoded characters" category. I suppose this is resolved? - -sche (discuss) 06:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, it's resolved --Cien pies 6 (talk) 00:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)