Reconstruction talk:Proto-West Germanic/wiþi

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Not seeing any evidence of OHG or OD descendants "with"[edit]

Are there any sources, quotations, or dictionary references for these?

Continental West Germanic languages lost the voiceless interdental fricative (th) rather early on, so if "with" existed in these languages it would been very early and would have quickly changed form to something like "wid."

A search of the Instituut voor de Nederlandse taal's Old Dutch, Early Middle Dutch, and Middle Dutch dictionaries show no matches for "with", "wid", or any similar spellings that have a related meaning.

For Old High German, in Rudolf Schützeichel's Althochdeutsches Wörterbuch (Old High German Dictionary Index) there is no entry that could be construed as "with". There is an entry for "wid" -- but unfortunately I cannot access the Vocabulary Gloss that the index for "wid" references for exposition on its meaning and origin. Another misfortune is that the Sächsische Akademie der Wissenschaften zu Leipzig's OHG dictionary has only been completed up to the letter S, so that's no help either.

Given the affect the High German consonant shift had on the interdental fricatives, without early attestations of "with" existing I'm inclined to remove them as descendants. Socksage (talk) 03:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

The source I have showing OHG wid states it's a preposition and compares it to Old Saxon with. Thank you for removing the Old Dutch. Leasnam (talk) 22:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply