Talk:πόλις

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From Proto-Indo-European *pl̥h₁- (stronghold). Cognates include Ancient Greek πόλις (pólis), Sanskrit पुर (pura) and Latvian pils.

Is it "pl̥h₁-" or "*pelH-"? Mallerd 22:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

See w:Indo-European ablaut. Sanskrit and Baltic are from zero-grade, Greek is from pelH-. --Ivan Štambuk 01:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
Actually, a zero-grade origin is a possibilty (see Beekes, Robert S. P. (2010) Etymological Dictionary of Greek (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 10), with the assistance of Lucien van Beek, Leiden, Boston: Brill, →ISBN). -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
I can't see how exactly, but whatever Beekes says ^_^ --Ivan Štambuk 08:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Puerile example sentence[edit]

For the past year and a half or so, the following example sentence graced this entry: "Οὐκ ἔλαβον πόλιν ἀλλὰ γὰρ ἐλπὶς ἔφη κακά." Recently, someone left feedback pointing out that if you read this sentence out loud it sounds like a mildly dirty sentence in French: Où est la bonne Pauline? À la gare, elle pisse et fait caca, while still being an actual Ancient Greek sentence meaning "they didn't capture the city, because every hope (to be successful) has gone away". I've removed it (I'm not convinced it's 100% grammatical in Ancient Greek anyway) and replaced it with a real quotation from Hesiod. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 00:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Much better. I hope you don't mind that I've reformatted it using {{Q}}. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 04:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
Not at all. Could you create documentation for {{Q}} so other people can figure out how to use it? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
There is documentation for Module:Quotations, which I have now linked to. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 21:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

gen, dat dual[edit]

The genitive, dative dual forms in Ionic (if they exist) should be πολίοιν not πολίοιιν. --Danielhythloday (talk) 09:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)Reply