Talk:пламя

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Singularia tantum[edit]

The plural is rare but examples of its use in print do exist. For instance, Пламена: трагедія (Михаил Матвѣевич Херасков, Печатана при Императорском Московском университетѣ, 1765); Структура газофазных пламен: материалы Международного семинара по структуре газофазных пламен (В. К. Баев, Новосибирск, июль 27-31, 1986 г, Volume 3, Академия наук СССР); «Исследования структуры плоских диффузионных пламен на встречных струях спектроскопическими и ионизационными методами.» (Реферативный журнал: Механика, Всесоюзный институт научной и технической информации, Институт научной информации, Академия наук СССР) —Stephen (Talk) 11:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

But you're going to leave it like that? There should be a note that the plural form is rare. Otherwise people who learn Russian and look at English Wiktionary may think plural sounds normal. Plus I have a feeling that in both English (flames) and definitely in Polish (płomienie) plural form seems to be used more frequently than the singular ("surround in flames", "powstać z płomieni" - literally 'rise from the flames'). 83.23.110.72 08:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

@Atitarev, Stephen G. Brown: What about языки пламени? Per utramque cavernam 12:59, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Per utramque cavernam: It’s singular in this example, lit.: “tongues of the flame”. Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 20:21, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Atitarev: Yes, but isn't it used as a suppletive plural? Per utramque cavernam 16:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Per utramque cavernam: You can probably say so only because "языки пламени" is translated into English as "flames" but "языки пламени" is not really the plural form of "пламя". --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Pronunciation of the word in Russian (plamya or plame) is very similar to English word "flame" if we replace "p" with "f".