Talk:թանթրվենի

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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Vahagn Petrosyan in topic Some bird’s berry
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Some bird’s berry[edit]

@Vahagn Petrosyan: Since the part without the plant suffix +‎ -ենի (-eni) could be anything, and “such” berry names are often from bird-names – English grouseberry means Vaccinium spp., mostly American Vaccinium scoparium, partridge berry means Mitchella repens and Gaultheria procumbens, wild partridgeberry Vaccinium vitis-idaea –, I propose it to be from or cognate to Proto-Iranian *tatr̥wáh (pheasant) (which explains also the variations), perhaps with a meaning closer to Proto-Balto-Slavic *teterwás (grouse), compare typologically Proto-Slavic *arębina (rowan, rowanberry) from *arębъ (partridge), or perhaps still a pheasant, imagine the backs of the phasianine peacock compared to the colourful branchings of elder species you see if you make an image search for Sambucus. Fay Freak (talk) 17:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I see what you are doing there. թանթռնիկ (tʻantʻṙnik) added to stonecrop is in German Fetthenne (literally fat-hen). Fay Freak (talk) 18:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Fay Freak: this is uncertain as no native or suitable Iranian form is attested. --Vahag (talk) 14:58, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply