Talk:捏

Singapore Hokkien and Teochew

@Justinrleung Should we consider it the same as the first sense, or a separate sense? Sorry for bringing up sexual references here, but you know what teenage boys are like, and my Hokkien and Teochew-speaking classmates in school used this verb in the context of squeezing a woman's breasts. The dog2 (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@The dog2: I've split squeeze and pinch into two following the MoE dictionary. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 17:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: OK. So should we also have a dialectal table for 擠 then? The dog2 (talk) 18:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@The dog2: Yes, I think we can. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 18:02, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Notes for Quanzhou and Xiamen Hokkien Pronunciations for Etymology 3.

Based on sources:

1. For the 1st edition of 閩南方言大詞典, it says "(3)义 (to bring up) <厦泉> 多读[liap], (1)(to mold)(2)(to do)义读[lia̍p]."
2. For the 2nd edition of 閩南方言大詞典, it says "(3)义 (to bring up) <厦> 多读[liap], (1)(to mold)(2)(to do)义读[lia̍p]. (4)义 (to fabricate) <泉>读[lia̍p]."
3. In 厦门方言词典, it says that the "to fabricate" definition in Xiamen is "liap".

My thoughts are, everything's quite consistent for Xiamen. For Xiamen, "to mold" and "to do" are "liap8","to bring up" and "to fabricate" are "liap7". For Quanzhou, it's more unclear. "To mold" and "to do" is most likely "lia̍p". For "to bring up", it's weird because they removed it from the 2nd definition, indicating that maybe it's wrong, but currently I put "liap" and "lia̍p" for Quanzhou for this definition. For "to fabricate", it's weird because the default of that entry for Quanzhou is "lia̍p" but the notes is trying to say Quanzhou pronounces that as "lia̍p", which is already the default, so to me, it indicates that it's really "liap" (which is how I say this word for "to fabricate", speaking a Jinjiang-based PH Hokkien, so it makes sense to me). Mar vin kaiser (talk) 10:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)