Talk:Don Quixote

RFV discussion: October 2018

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Don Quixote

Old Spanish. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Old Spanish (according to Wikipedia) became modern Spanish in the 15th century. Don Quixote was first published in the 17th century, so this is impossible. I imagine whoever added it was confused about what "Old Spanish" meant, and thought anything using obsolete spellings must be "Old Spanish". (Likewise, a lot of people think Shakespeare is written in "Old English".) --Lvovmauro (talk) 14:17, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Converted to a Spanish entry. As Lvovmauro notes, this is an open-and-shut case of misapplication of the "Old Spanish" L2 header, but it is obviously attested as Spanish. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Shouldn't the Spanish entry be at don Quixote? —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 19:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

It's possible to find both. This page in a facimile of the first edition uses don, while later discussions of its significance as an iconic character tend to use Don- but usage is all over the map. I would advise those looking for cites to look for both "Quixote" and "Quijote",and to leave out "don"- Google Books is quite inconsistent with its indexing in this case. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

You're right, both can be found. It looks to me like the lowercase version is more common, and that's the standard capitalization in modern Spanish (see w:es:Don (tratamiento)#Ortografía, for instance), so I suggest that the main entries be at don Quixote and don Quijote, with the capitalized versions converted to alternative spellings. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:25, 28 October 2018 (UTC)