Talk:Red-Letter Christian
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The definition is at least somewhat wrong, this seems to in use for Christians, particularly evangelicals, who give special weight to the sayings of Jesus, as in a red-letter bible. But this is chiefly the name for a specific activist group with those views and it is difficult to find durable use as a common noun independent of people associated with that organisation. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
cited. Kiwima (talk) 21:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima All right, so basically all of those cites refer to people associated with the activist movement, except maybe the first one. I suppose it means that is how the term is used?
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 18:56, 7 May 2021 (UTC)- It seems to be, yes. That was all I could find. (And the first quote is from a dissertation that is examining the activist movement). Kiwima (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 21:33, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
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Not SOP and as a common noun not really covered by WT:NSE, but the most precise definition would be "a member of the Red-Letter Christians" which was the name of a specific activist group, so this is getting rather close to a proper noun. My instinct would be to delete this as marginal content for a dictionary. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:48, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- It is a useful definition that could not be guessed. If we insist on "Red-Letter Christians" as the lemma, then fine, make it a plural entry, and use "singular of..." at the singular, but that approach always look backwards to me. Equinox ◑ 18:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- "It is a useful definition that could not be guessed." That is a relatively common trait for common nouns denoting members of organisations with opaque names, some of which should be kept and some of which should not. Not a fan of the good old lemma switcheroo either.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- "It is a useful definition that could not be guessed." That is a relatively common trait for common nouns denoting members of organisations with opaque names, some of which should be kept and some of which should not. Not a fan of the good old lemma switcheroo either.
- Would you want to delete Seventh-day Adventist too? Equinox ◑ 18:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- No, but that one isn't really in the same ballpark. Red-Letter Christian is quite rare with use mostly restricted to a few years around 2010 when the movement was a bit of a thing. Seventh-day Adventist Church would presumably pass NSE, but a proper noun Red-Letter Christians wouldn't really stand a chance, would it?
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- No, but that one isn't really in the same ballpark. Red-Letter Christian is quite rare with use mostly restricted to a few years around 2010 when the movement was a bit of a thing. Seventh-day Adventist Church would presumably pass NSE, but a proper noun Red-Letter Christians wouldn't really stand a chance, would it?
- Very late update: (i) defining X as "a member of the Xs" is obviously circular and stupid; (ii) having spoken to Lingo (and this was ages ago too!) apparently this religious group is quite a new modern one, whereas I had assumed it had got some history behind it. Still, RFV is king. Equinox ◑ 06:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per what Equinox said. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 04:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I don’t have any good citations for this, but I hear this term fairly often on my local Christian talk radio station as a reference to people with a particular approach to Christianity without regard to any organization. For regular Bible readers, it’s not a very opaque term, so there’s no reason for them to think it rightly belongs to a particular group. I think it’s a legitimate common noun. Lereman (talk) 00:00, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- No consensus, kept. - TheDaveRoss 13:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)