Talk:accusative case

In entries like this it'd be useful to enter examples for people like me who need them.212.250.189.121 10:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I added some examples. —Stephen 22:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

You can add {{rfex}} to a page, this puts it in Category:Requests for example sentences. H. (talk) 11:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

This is absurd.

Why do I find so many entries on grammar which use incomplete sentences to describe grammatical elements? That's ludicrous. Tooth557 (talk) 05:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

It is dictionary style (normally used in American dictionaries at least). It makes for faster and easier comprehension, and it imparts a lightness that improves readability. I have never seen the OED, perhaps that dictionary uses your preferred style. —Stephen ^(Talk) 07:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

ON the various forms, dative, accusative, nominative etc.

It is very fine that you who write explanations in Wiktionary, are using a very grammatically correct language to explain grammar. However, I do not understand a thing of it. It is like as if you good people are explaining addition by telling about PLUS. It is for instance putting me in a vacuum, when you explain "Genitive Case", like this:

Noun[edit] (grammar) Noun case used to express some relationship such as possession or origin. It corresponds roughly to the English preposition "of."

I think that you should get someone who are experienced in grammar AND experienced in teaching for students or young people, to explain what it is.

MY POINT IS, ladies and gentlemen - that it is not working when grammar is explained with more grammar.

I hope it makes sense? 197.237.157.216 17:39, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

In fairness, how can you avoid it? If you look at the definition, that is what it means. Let's put it another way, try explain what a cat is without saying it's an animal. No synonyms of animal like 'beast' either and no animal-related terms either like 'feline' either. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Maybe if I give you an extremely simplified explanation of just one case, it will help you to understand other similar explanations. We don’t want to do this on the page itself, or in every case, because it is overly simplified and others would complain about it.

Taking as an example the genitive case, which roughly corresponds to the English preposition "of"...the Latin phrase Medicinae Doctor (abbreviated M.D.) means Doctor of Medicine. In Latin, the word medicinae is in the genitive case, and so it means "of medicine". In Latin, the genitive medicinae can come before doctor, but in English, "of medicine" has to come after doctor, and therefore Latin Medicinae Doctor means "Doctor of Medicine" in English. And this is what is meant by "roughly corresponds to the English preposition "of".

Or think of the English term "doctor's office". The ’s at the end of doctor roughly corresponds to the English preposition "belonging to", so "doctor's office" means "office belonging to a doctor". —Stephen ^(Talk) 11:43, 14 February 2016 (UTC)