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Alveolar in Mongolian[edit]

The Mongolian for alveolar (in phonetics) is түүшийн. Inner Mongolian sources give ᠪᠦᠢᠯᠡ ᠶ᠋ᠢᠨ. ᠪᠦᠢᠯᠡ (meaning 'teeth ridge') is listed in 汉蒙词典 (published in China) as having the underlying Mongol bichig spelling 'büile' and the pronunciation 'buil'. This should be бүйл in Cyrillic, but I have yet to find any dictionary from Mongolia that lists this word. This is quite curious, since some large Mongolian dictionaries have made a practice of mining Inner Mongolian dictionaries for vocabulary in an attempt to be 'comprehensive'. At any rate, I've given бүйлийн as a translation for 'alveolar', despite the fact that I have been unable to find any Cyrillic source for it.

Additional note: I did find this source, although I'm not sure what the status is: https://toli.query.mn/w/7979.
I also found this example of actual use: http://miss.mn/53854/, possibly reproduced from a Chinese source?

Bathrobe (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Finally found бүйл in Cyrillic at the Chinese-published ᠮᠣᠩᠭᠣᠯ ᠬᠡᠯᠡᠨ ᠦ ᠲᠣᠯᠢ. All is well.
Bathrobe (talk) 05:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Stress on second syllable?[edit]

In various contexts I have only ever heard this word with stress on the THIRD syllable. 81.99.106.70 16:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

I managed to get a linguistics degree from UCLA without ever hearing the linguistics sense pronounced that way, and the dictionary app on my computer agrees with our entry. Your pronunciation strikes me as a normal guess by someone who's never heard the word pronounced- but there are lots of people in that category, so it might have caught on in places. If there's enough evidence of usage that way, we could give it as an alternative pronunciation. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply