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brick[edit]

Verb senses. --Connel MacKenzie 21:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

The third definition was recently used in a Homestar cartoon, and I have definitely heard it elsewhere. --Bran 04:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply


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brick[edit]

Maning: "a term of endearment for someone who did you a favor". At the least it require some tag, but I have no idea whatsoever which one. Circeus 18:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

That is correct, searching for "you're a brick" should bring citable results (I'll look momentarily). As for the tag, it's certainly {{informal}} and {{dated}}, I don't know whether it needs a {{UK}} as well though? Thryduulf 19:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Correct, and quite old. --Dmol 21:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
That's enough for me, thank you people. Circeus 01:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)Reply


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Sense: "To be in a high state of anxiety or fright." That regional slang tag is so useful I was going to take it to the tea room, but decided that either it can be cited (which would help us put a region there) or it can't, and we should just delete it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's brick it (as the sense line states): it shouldn't be at brick. Equinox 00:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sense deleted. bd2412 T 19:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Brick quasi-cite[edit]

    • 2012 According to [the title of] a published article (found via a link from a footnote of the Wikipedia article about IMEIs),[1], the transitive verb to "brick" something (such as a stolen mobile phone) is sometimes used (as of 2012) to mean something that is done intentionally, by or on behalf of the owner, in cases where the phone is (or might have been) stolen.
  1. ^ “Lanier: FCC and Wireless Carriers To Allow Customers To “Brick” Stolen Phones”, in (Please provide the book title or journal name)[1], 2014 January 5 (last accessed)

Missing sense from cycling?[edit]

Glossary of cycling says that a brick is "a rider who is a slow climber but an efficient descender". Equinox 16:22, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: August–November 2018[edit]

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Adjective sense 1: "Made of brick(s)"; a brick chimney, a brick wall. Standard attributive use of the noun. Per utramque cavernam 08:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, delete that sense (or refer users to the noun), leaving the "extremely cold" sense. The translations can be moved to the noun. DonnanZ (talk) 09:46, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Delete sense. --SanctMinimalicen (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Comment. I think these "substance" words are among the most difficult to judge. Collins Dictionary gives adjective senses "built or paved with brick" and "like brick", but it seems to contradict itself as it also gives "a brick house" as an example of noun modifier use. American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language lists an adjective sense but gives no definition or examples. Chambers Dictionary is perhaps the clearest: "adj 1 made of brick or of bricks • a brick wall. 2 (also brick-red) having the dull brownish-red colour of ordinary bricks." Several other dictionaries that I looked at do not list a separate adjective sense. For my part, I wonder how e.g. "this house is brick" is explained if "brick" is not an adjective. Mihia (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I'd say "brick" is definitely an adjective in "this house is brick" (in which case the section should be kept and completed), but is that sentence grammatical? Per utramque cavernam 20:20, 3 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it's grammatical. Well it certainly is to me, anyway. See also GBS [2].
Not sure I agree. What about "this house is pure brick", or "this house is 18th-century brick"? For me, "this house is brick" seems to be using an uncountable noun. Equinox 22:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
If I have some water in a glass, for example, then I can say "this is water". It actually is water. I question whether a house actually is brick in the uncountable noun sense. I think it is of brick, or made of brick, in the uncountable noun sense. However, this can be a hair-splitting point. Mihia (talk) 00:17, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
But you can't say "the glass [of water] is water" (which would the equivalent of "the house is brick"). Maybe "my wedding ring is gold" would be a better example: I don't know how we would choose how to analyse "gold" there, but again because it could be "pure gold", "fake gold", or "18th-century gold" I'd go for the noun. Equinox 00:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I think this is explicable by a conflation of predicate adjectives and grammatical ellipsis. On one hand, we have predicate adjectives: "The wedding ring is gold[en]", "The house is brick[en]." (I've added the endings for clarity.)
On the other hand the semantic content is parsible as "The house is [of] brick", "the wedding ring is [of] gold", with textbook ellipsis allowing us to drop words we don't need, where the terms "brick" and "gold" are part of an understood prepositional phrase. When we say "The house is brick" or "The ring is gold", it seems to me that we are in effect using both of the above syntactic understands, and that the words "gold" and "brick" are simultaneously and ambiguously both adjectives and nouns. The addition of other parts to the sentence (e.g. "The house is pure brick") tips the scale one way or another where it is no longer so ambiguous. --SanctMinimalicen (talk) 01:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Does that mean (I'm asking this neutrally, not as a passive-aggressive contradiction) that you would support adjective senses for things like rubidium, polyvinyl chloride, and polyester (lol already got polyester)? Equinox 01:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I believe you are correct that "The ring is gold" is interpretable either as saying the ring is a substance or that the ring is made of a substance. However, I find "The house is brick" harder to interpret in the first way, because of the "more complicated" nature of its construction. Mihia (talk) 11:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Well, you could say: "this glass is water, and this glass is vodka". As for brick, you can say "the houses in her neighborhood are red brick". Here in California, one is more likely to see brick referred to as unreinforced masonry, which is a Very Bad Thing if you're standing next to it during an earthquake. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:19, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I notice we have an adjective section at fire: "That shit is fire, yo!". Now that I've read Equinox's comments above, I'm not so sure either that or "The house is brick" are sufficient proof that we're dealing with adjectives (could we say "That shit is pure fire, yo!"?). Per utramque cavernam 08:55, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Fay Freak (talk) 22:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply


possible origin of electronics sense[edit]

I remember from an early job that brick was a term for a large, bulky cellphone of the style commonly used in the 1990s, so big and heavy that you generally stood it upright on a table, as contrasted with the then new TV-remote-like style that could fit in your purse or in a hip holster. It may not have acquired the sense of a nonfunctional device until people stopped seeing "bricks" that still worked. See this YouTube channel for an example of this older usage. Arguably we could even list it with a separate sense definition but I dont know how we handle things like that .... e.g. if there is a label "1990s technology" etc. Soap 13:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)Reply