Talk:come of

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RFV[edit]

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Rfv-sense. "To happen to." I don't get it. That's not what it means, surely? When you say "What came of that plan to...?" it means "what came from, what resulted from". This is our (deprecated template usage) of, sense 3.1, and is also used with other verbs. Or am I missing something here. Ƿidsiþ 06:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Encarta, Macmillan, and Collins, among current OneLook dictionaries, have an entry for this, but with the meaning "result from". There is also an obsolete sense "descend from" and as synonym/contraction of become of.
What should come of the entry? We could add all of the other senses, submit it to RfD, and see what comes of the discussion. DCDuring TALK 13:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
How would you interpret:
Whatever came of you and me? / America's new bride to be / Don't worry baby I'm safe and sound / Down in the dungeon just Peaches 'n' me
? — Pingkudimmi 16:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I think that's the "become of" sense. Whether it really "is" NISoP as come + of, I don't know, but I find common verbs like "come", "get", "make", "have", and "take" and prepositions, both in their more grammaticized senses, to be very hard to combine appropriately to yield the meaning of combinations I routinely use. DCDuring TALK 21:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
"happen to" RFV-failed, new definition "result from" kept. - -sche (discuss) 23:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply