Talk:conditional
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Backinstadiums in topic past conditional
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rfv-sense: (obsolete) A limitation. MooreDoor (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
cited Kiwima (talk) 03:51, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima: Some of these do not fit for this particular sense in my opinion, though I would rather another native speaker look over these. Fytcha (talk) 12:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima: I'm not convincd either Notusbutthem (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I tend to agree, but the definition is what is suspect, not the quotes. The uses (other than the 2018 quote, which is probably sense 1) don't fit any of our other definitions well. The sense may simply be condition in the sense "requirement or requisite" - notice how the 2009 quote uses the verb "apply", in line with the collocation "to apply a condition" - while the OED's definition "A word or clause expressing a condition" is also plausible. This, that and the other (talk) 13:03, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I haven’t read such pseudo-intellectual religious claptrap in a long time but I think it may indeed mean something like ‘limitation’ or ‘condition’ in these examples. Overlordnat1 (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I interpreted the definition (especially once I started looking), as 'limitation' in the sense of 'condition', just as @Overlordnat1 said. I don't think any of these look like sense 1 - sense 1 is a grammatical term, and the 2018 quote, which @This, that and the other thinks fits there is clearly talking about conditional promises (promises that are qualified by conditions), not conditional sentences. The problem is that the definition is too broad. Kiwima (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I tried rewriting the def; did I make it better or worse? This, that and the other (talk) 02:48, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- I interpreted the definition (especially once I started looking), as 'limitation' in the sense of 'condition', just as @Overlordnat1 said. I don't think any of these look like sense 1 - sense 1 is a grammatical term, and the 2018 quote, which @This, that and the other thinks fits there is clearly talking about conditional promises (promises that are qualified by conditions), not conditional sentences. The problem is that the definition is too broad. Kiwima (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima: I'm not convincd either Notusbutthem (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 21:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
https://www2.vobs.at/ludescher/Grammar/inductive_approach.htm --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)