Talk:corner pub
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"A pub on the corner of two roads." - If this is similar to corner store (that is, often not on a corner at all), then it is probably non-idiomatic. Are these generally actually on corners? Is that important to their nature? If not, are these distinct from other pubs in some meaningful way? Is this more idiomatic than local pub? My suspicion is that this is a sense of corner (corner drugstore, corner deli, corner store, corner laundry, etc.) and this isn't a special term at all. - TheDaveRoss 18:36, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not a phrase I am particularly familiar with (but I do spend a lot of time in pubs, some of them on corners). I think it's SoP. Creator was Wonderfool! Equinox ◑ 18:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, we have the same image in French: restaurant du coin, café du coin, épicerie du coin. As you can see, du coin can qualify a variety of shops. Canonicalization (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- There are several near me - all on corners. But, like corner shop, it seems SoP. SemperBlotto (talk) 19:09, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- If a corner shop is any small convenience store, whether on a corner or in the middle of a block, then it is not a SoP (IMO), at least not for any of the senses listed under corner. --Lambiam 15:56, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
cited. Kiwima (talk) 01:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- There is of course no doubt that the phrase "corner pub" exists, but I think what is important here is whether it is used idiomatically for pubs that are not specifically on the corner of two roads. I'm not sure that any of the present citations unambiguously attest that sense, but finding such attestations could be tricky unless one actually is familiar with the area described. Mihia (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- not intended as a durable cite, but just to prove that the idiomatic sense of a "corner pub" exists, see w:Coffee_palace#History: "Intended as an alternative to the corner pub, they were often about the same size, and just about every town of any size soon had at least one." clearly in that sentence they're talking about the atmosphere of a corner pub and not its location. --Habst (talk) 21:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- I have moved the citations that could be referring to a particular corner location to the citations page. We still have four cites that seem to use the term more generically, to mean something like a neighbourhood pub. Kiwima (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, sorry, I think I might have slightly got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. Somehow I managed to read TheDaveRoss's original nomination as saying that this phrase was non-idiomatic if the pub was actually on a corner, so we needed examples where the pub is not on a corner, whereas actually he is saying that it is non-idiomatic if the pub needn't be on the corner. I tend to agree that this is potentially a separate sense of "corner" because there are many possible examples ("corner chemist", "corner newsagent", "corner sweetshop" etc. etc.). If the view is that generally these neededn't literally be on a corner, then I think we do need a sense at "corner". Mihia (talk) 16:12, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- OK, well I added the sense to corner. Anyone disagrees, please make any changes you think are necessary. Mihia (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- not intended as a durable cite, but just to prove that the idiomatic sense of a "corner pub" exists, see w:Coffee_palace#History: "Intended as an alternative to the corner pub, they were often about the same size, and just about every town of any size soon had at least one." clearly in that sentence they're talking about the atmosphere of a corner pub and not its location. --Habst (talk) 21:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 21:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)