Talk:economical

RFV discussion: October 2015–January 2016

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economical

Rfv-sense: Relating to economy in any other sense. What does this actually refer to, specifically? I have no idea. ---> Tooironic (talk) 01:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I've added four quotations. Maybe the sense would be more clearly phrased "Relating to an economy or economics." —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 03:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I'd consider that sense of economical to be archaic. It is no accident that the one cite from a native speaker is from 169 years ago and the other three are apparently from non-native speakers. DCDuring TALK 16:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Good point. I've added the label "archaic". —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 21:24, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. I've always thought "economic" could never mean "economical", but I suppose it might have originally at some point in time. ---> Tooironic (talk) 04:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

RFV-passed. - -sche (discuss) 09:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I disagree with the specific label applied. Better would have been something like dated or uncommon.

The British National Corpus, for example, contains several instances in which "economical" is used in sense 3. For example:

• "talks about moving forward as [he/she] states it in the economical situation the council is in."
• "his attitude can not be blamed on his economical situation."
• "not bad from an environmental, as well as economical point of view."
• "the value of the soup from an economical point of view is also lost."
• "In the original case that was put forward, the basis of the economical assessment and its traffic flows, was on the western relief road being the first"
• "the effects of price, technical change and structural adjustment), the technological and economical assessment of alternative energy production systems, and the impact of new electronics related technologies"

These are generally from the 1980's and expressed by (British) native speakers of English. The surrounding text further illustrates that this is not 'archaic' usage.

—DIV (120.17.142.198 12:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC))