Talk:gonnegtion
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Slang used in a single book? SemperBlotto 09:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fitzgerald ain't Shakespeare, but Gatsby's a well-known work. I cleaned up the entry and got the original quote. I think the anti-Semitism (or whatever it is) speaks for itself without comment being required. DCDuring 17:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is it a nonce? RJFJR 18:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- There are a couple of independent cites and a goodly amount of critical discussion of the term. DCDuring 19:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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Nonce word only in Gatsby; see Talk:gonnegtion. Equinox ◑ 10:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The conclusion of a prior RfV that usage is widespread is bogus; there is no lack of mentions, but just one use – to imitate a mobster’s accent. The criterion of the term occurring in “a well-known work” has since been retracted. If we allow including nonce spelling pronunciations we also need to allow ozer, vateffer and vonce. --Lambiam 18:55, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. This is an RFV matter. Old Man Consequences (talk) 23:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Move to RFV, where quotations supporting WT:ATTEST as currently written can be sought. Talk:gonnegtion has a RFV closed in 2008, where the "well-known work" card was pulled, and as Lambiam says, '“a well-known work” has since been retracted'. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:44, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Moved from RFD. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:53, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- I support deleting this. A dialect or speech impediment doesn't make it a word. Only if this becomes ironically used, in either the original or some other sense, by people who otherwise speak normally would it be a word in its own right. e.g. we dont list every child's mispronunciation of every word in the language, but we do list pasghetti , which seems to have caught on with adults. —Soap— 21:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- In principle RfV does not care about votes. Three cites that support the challenged definition are sufficient to pass the RfV. It is possible that contributors may disagree that the cites meet WT:ATTEST or unambiguously support the definition, but that usually just leads to a search for better attestation. There is nothing that would keep us from having entries for the pronunciation spellings that Lambiam refers to if they should prove attestable. DCDuring (talk) 22:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Okay thanks, I wasnt really sure because this is my first post on this page (until now Ive only gone to the non-English one) and I saw votes up above. But I know that this was on RFD before it was RFV so I sort of hedged it by wording it differently. Still ... if we need three citations I don't think it's going to make it. —Soap— 23:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- In principle RfV does not care about votes. Three cites that support the challenged definition are sufficient to pass the RfV. It is possible that contributors may disagree that the cites meet WT:ATTEST or unambiguously support the definition, but that usually just leads to a search for better attestation. There is nothing that would keep us from having entries for the pronunciation spellings that Lambiam refers to if they should prove attestable. DCDuring (talk) 22:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
RFV-passed, there are two cites other than Gatsby on the citations page. This passed. Kiwima (talk) 23:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Is there a pattern?[edit]
Is this related to the gommunism meme? it seems to voice all stops ... well, maybe just some .... "chegmate gapitalists" etc. —Soap— 17:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)