Talk:gotten

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Not just US[edit]

I'm not convinced by this whole "gotten is an americanism" term. I'm sure it's a British term that just happens to now be more popular in America than the UK, at the present time. Like "Normalcy". In fact "Ill-gotten gains" is most definately a British expression - and one that's in current usage, so it's not just a US term at all. Gotten is also the PP in all the late middle english texts. — This comment was unsigned.

While I agree with your overall assessment, I'd like to nit-pick one minor detail: ill-begotten, no? --Connel MacKenzie 13:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Different thing from ill-gotten 146.87.193.4 08:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
It's used in Scotland frequently in exactly the same way as Americans use it, so you can leave the "British" reference out of it and just say "England", even then my brother-in-law uses it and he's from Newcastle upon Tyne--86.142.199.173 08:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
It is the PP of "get". For some reason it fell out of usage in England in the 18th century and stayed in use in America. Sort of like how "fall" stayed in use in America and "autumn" became fashionable in England. People have just "forgotten" the original English origin and decided it must be an Americanism. MultK 16:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid you're wrong, "gotten" is very much still in use in Britain, in fact I would hazard a guess at saying it is used that much, that the British use it more than the Americans. What source are you using to say it is not still in use? As that source is incorrect. --Thomas Brocklebank 07:27, 04 January 2013 (GMT)

While it may well be that some British do use gotten, your "guess" is simply nonsensical. Gotten is an everyday word throughout the US, and it's rare in most of Britain, even if "rare" doesn't mean "nonexistent". Kolmiel (talk) 21:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC)Reply