Talk:homorganic
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Per utramque cavernam in topic Coordinate term?
Coordinate term?[edit]
@Mahagaja: Hello. Would you know of a coordinate term meaning "having the same manner of articulation"? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 22:44, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- If that even makes sense... --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 22:52, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam: I'm unaware of any such term. It makes sense in principle (/k/ and /ɡ/ are homomannerous while /k/ and /x/ are heteromannerous), but in practice no one seems to have felt the need to coin such a term. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Mahagaja: Thanks. This made me think of homotropic/heterotropic, but they're not used in that sense.
- And now this makes me think of homotopic. It's not a synonym of homorganic, right? There's this, this, and this. "in the same phonetic environment"? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 10:45, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam: I've certainly never heard homotropic or heterotropic used in phonetics/phonology. And since τόπος (tópos) means "place", not "manner", I'd expect "homotopic" to be synonymous with homorganic, and indeed seems to be used that way in the second and third links you gave above. (I can't see the first one.) —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:49, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Mahagaja: The first one is the strangest: "In everyday usage, Israelis pronounce two non-homotopic and non-homorganic word-initial consonants as a cluster." --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- That does sound like it means "having the same manner of articulation". But if so, it must be a very rare term. Here it's pretty clearly a synonym of homorganic. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:56, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed, I've added it to the entry. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 11:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- That does sound like it means "having the same manner of articulation". But if so, it must be a very rare term. Here it's pretty clearly a synonym of homorganic. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:56, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Mahagaja: The first one is the strangest: "In everyday usage, Israelis pronounce two non-homotopic and non-homorganic word-initial consonants as a cluster." --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam: I've certainly never heard homotropic or heterotropic used in phonetics/phonology. And since τόπος (tópos) means "place", not "manner", I'd expect "homotopic" to be synonymous with homorganic, and indeed seems to be used that way in the second and third links you gave above. (I can't see the first one.) —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:49, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Per utramque cavernam: I'm unaware of any such term. It makes sense in principle (/k/ and /ɡ/ are homomannerous while /k/ and /x/ are heteromannerous), but in practice no one seems to have felt the need to coin such a term. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)