Talk:ledger

RFV discussion: January 2021

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ledger

Rfv-sense: Sense 1, now split from accounting definition, which is now sense 2: "A book for keeping notes; a record book, a register."

To balance the voluminous accounting citations we could use three terse ones for the clearly distinct non-accounting sense. DCDuring (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 00:31, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

One cite was for ledger drawing, now an entry with a single cite, but with many more available at Google Books. The 1981 cite is a metaphorical use of the accounting sense, ie, with debits, credits, balances. The other two cites are for (non-accounting) paper documents. I don't think conflating the two definitions is good dictionary practice, so I think we need another cite for the "record book" sense. DCDuring (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Fine. I have added a quote with an attendance ledger. The Book about the ledger drawing also talked about how these were drawings added to people's ledgers to tell their story, so I still think that it counts. For another example:

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2017, Colin G. Calloway, Michael Paul Jordan, Ledger Narratives, page 226:

“Isaiah” pined for his home, and the time he spent trekking and hunting in the verdant landscapes of his southern home, a scene that he artfully recreates in his ledger.

but if you don't think that counts here, then we need another sense of ledger for a book or folio that is filled with ledger drawings. Kiwima (talk) 00:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A folio seems a bit more likely than a book, but I have no evidence, just inference. I was hoping to find at Commons an image of a ledger book opened to show ledger drawings, but all the images are of individual sheets. I wonder how the Plains Indians got ledger pages. Were they unfilled pages at the end of an annual ledger recording? Did they just prefer lined paper? One work said that drawing on paper resulted from a shortage of buffalo hides, but it seems to me as likely that paper was just easier to obtain, transport, and store than hides. Judging from the images at Commons there were sequences of drawings, which fits the idea of 'narrative' drawings. DCDuring (talk) 14:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 00:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)