Talk:lupa

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Etymology[edit]

The Finnish etymology Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/lewbʰ- is ascribed too much naked "love" to be meaningful in the sense indicated. The word may be ultimately the same root, but the true cognate is "leave" in the sense of permission to be absent or gone on a holiday, or lov#Swedish. Finnish lupaus is the promise, say, that you're welcome back if you leave with permission, or you're not going to get in trouble if you do what you have the permission to do. 209.193.46.130 12:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Swedish lov (leave, vacation, permission, praise) is from *lewbʰ- all the same. The Finnish word was borrowed into Proto-Finnic from Proto-Germanic *lubą, which is from that aforementioned IE root. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 12:29, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Tagalog Etymology[edit]

@Ysrael214 For these etymologies that you're adding from Sanskrit, just wondering if you're taking this from a published source or is it your own theorizing? Thanks. Mar vin kaiser (talk) 14:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi, my reference is Tagalog Borrowings and Cognates by Jean-Paul G Potet but I cross reference with Soundshifts in Some Dialects of the Philippines by Eugene Verstraelen. Although these are from a published source, I still put "possibly" so that others can confirm this as well. Ysrael214 (talk) 15:02, 11 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
However, the Sanskrit there isn't written in Devanagari so I have to manually type IAST to an online Sanskrit dictionary. Ysrael214 (talk) 15:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Didn't realize this page is about "lupa." Many books reference रूप (rūpa) because of the Malay word rupa which means appearance. However, that may be a mistake since रुप् (rup) which means earth exists.
My source is: https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/csl-apidev/servepdf.php?dict=MW&page=884 which in turn is from the Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary. Ysrael214 (talk) 15:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)Reply