Talk:manuculus

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RFV discussion: July 2019–January 2023[edit]

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Latin manuculus: Attested or not?[edit]

Latin. @Metaknowledge, Fay Freak, Brutal Russian, JohnC5 Latin manuculus is marked as "Vulgar Latin", and many sources put a star by it indicating it's reconstructed. Can we attest it? Benwing2 (talk) 06:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Often stars are put wrongly or after obsolete or uninformed sources. With references and several variants and even several derivatives mentioned by Wilhelm Heraeus Die Sprache des Petronius und die Glossen p. 45 bottom. I note and link here the earlier form maniculus in Apuleius book 9. The Thesaurus linguae latinae has manuculus too. Fay Freak (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
There still are 0 quotes. --Myrelia (talk) 11:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

On second thought, this should have a star, as it isn't directly attested, but emended from mamaculus in an ancient glossary and it can be inferred from manuciolus (small handfull). —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 02:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

On the one hand, it's not really attested and only a correction.
On the other hand, there are similar issues with:
1) manuscripts and editions – editions can contain corrections as well (compare e.g. Northus);
2) ancient inscriptions – often people have to guess about word divisions, spellings and meanings (see e.g. Bergakker inscription, Old Latin#Fragments and inscriptions).
So I guess all three is possible: Have mamaculus, manuculus or *manuculus - of course, with label, explanation and source (Heraeus mentioning a gloss). --Myrelia (talk) 12:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed, the tag was already removed some time ago and no objections have been raised to following the FEW in leaving it unstarred with the evidence available. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply