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Pronunciation[edit]

There's also [ˌpəˈkɒ(ː)n]. - -sche (discuss) 21:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Where? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
It's an unstressed variant of the most common US pronunciation; I've added it with a reference to Merriam-Webster. I'm about to put everything in a collapsible table so it won't take up so bloody much space... but it's great that we can provide this level of detail about the pronunciation of the word. - -sche (discuss) 22:11, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
I think I call it a /ˈpiːkən/. Haha, lots of variants it seems. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
I've added that one with a reference now. :) Sadly, I can't find data on the relative commonness of the pronunciation in the UK. - -sche (discuss) 22:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
The entry could really use some audio files. Also, I'm curious about Anglophone countries other than the US and UK. @Andrew Sheedy, Commander Keane, Jamesjiao, JustinrleungΜετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Metaknowledge: I'm confused myself. I'm not sure how I pronounce it because I don't use this word very often, but I think I use either [pʰɪˈkʰæn] or [pʰɪˈkʰɑn]. The [ɪ] could be reduced to [ə]. Gage Canadian Dictionary gives /ˈpi.kæn/ and /pɪˈkæn/. — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 04:34, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Justinrleung: Thanks. I don't use the word much either, as I don't actually even eat them. Citing regional dictionaries is probably the best way to go — what edition is the copy you consulted, so we can reference it properly in the entry? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:03, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I added the Australian pronunciation file but "pecan" broke the link! I will try and put it below:
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--Commander Keane (talk) 05:11, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Metaknowledge: I used the 1983 edition of the Gage Canadian Dictionary. — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 00:54, 25 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
The pronunciation I've heard most often in Western Canada is /pɪˈkæn/, but I think I've heard /ˈpi.kæn/ as well. It looks like the entry already mentions both as being used in Canada, so I have no new information to add. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 16:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Upper Midwest Pronunciation[edit]

One of the pronunciations given is [ˈk͡pɑːn]. I have multiple questions: 1) How do you know that this is a pronunciation in use? (ie can you cite a source or are you a native speaker)? 2) How did labio-velar stops arise in an English dialect?

p.s. Sorry if I come off as condescending, I'm not trying to challenge the claim that this pronunciation exists, I'm just really curious and would like to learn more about that specific pronunciation. — This unsigned comment was added by User.name.here (talkcontribs).

It was added by a user who has added strange, possibly idiolectal pronunciations before, as well as made-up information. I have removed it, because it seems incredibly unlikely that this is a proper transcription. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Reply