Talk:replay
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"(video games) saved video footage of the gameplay of a computer game". This has to be distinct from sense 1, which means playing something back. In other words, "I enjoyed watching that replay of your Mario speedrun" is ambiguous, because it might mean that I enjoyed the playback experience; we would need something like "there are 20 replays saved on this server for download". @PseudoSkull Equinox ◑ 02:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
cited Kiwima (talk) 23:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am not personally au fait with video game terminology, but to me it is unclear that these citations demonstrate any separate video-game sense, as opposed to the usual sense simply used in a video game context, albeit the existing general sense may need improving so as to include the content as well as the action of replaying. Mihia (talk) 01:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think this needs to be broadened because it doesn't seem video-game-specific. It might be a separate sense from "the replaying of (something), for example of televised footage", because I can see how "the option of instant replay" = "the option of instantly replaying footage" might(?) be different from "replays of memorable shots", although I'm not sure, but you could certainly use the exact same phrase to refer to replays of memorable shots made by real-life players in a televised basketball game, etc; and "when you watch a replay" of those, ... - -sche (discuss) 22:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
RFV-passed. You may be right about the actual meaning being more general, but that is very difficult to unambiguously cite, since just about anything that talks about a replay for television, e.g., could also be sense 1. If someone can find cites about having a replay on tape or editing a replay, I will happily broaden the definition. Kiwima (talk) 09:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- The same ambiguity applies to most of these citations too, though, which is why I think it comes down to whether we subjectively think certain phrases (which can be used with regard to either video games or televised sports, etc) are more sensibly viewed as using a different sense, since the citations don't seem to unambiguously require one. The 2004 Buchanan cite could just as well be sense 1 ("replaying of (something)"): "When you watch a replay[ing of something], a time meter appears at the bottom of the screen to show you how far you are into your replay[ing]." If we do take "watch a replay", "how far into a replay" to require the sense "footage", I see no reason that a ref "watching a replay" of a "real" football match, and being interrupted "halfway into that replay", would be a different sense from watching a replay of a video game football match. Perhaps context would clarify otherwise, but on the face of it the 2004 Hodgson citation, "Before you work on a replay", would seem to make more sense as sense 1 (before you replay the game, before you work on a new playthrough, ...) than sense 2 (before you... what, edit footage of your game character?), although neither makes a lot of sense. - -sche (discuss) 09:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, the overall division and definitions of senses here is (and was since before this RFV) a bit odd, and some are written in a way that makes them overlap with other senses and doesn't reflect their own true scope/focus (especially sense 1). I just tried a way of reorganizing the entry that seems both more in line with the division of senses in (most of) the cites and more in line with other dictionaries: what does anyone think of this (contrasted with the old set of senses)? I think I improved sense 1 (and moved the quote which was under it to somewhere it fit); on the other hand, senses 2-3 are wordy and may even miss some things the old arrangement captured, so further changes are needed. - -sche (discuss) 10:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)