Talk:residence

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RFD discussion[edit]

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Sense: "Street address of a person."

Sole citation:

  • 1859 Easton, Alexander, A Practical Treatise on Street or Horse-Power Railways, p 108, "Rules adopted by the Sixth Avenue Railway, N. Y.":
    4. You will report accidents or collisions at the Superintendent's Office at Forty-third Street, immediately on arrival, with the names and residences of witnesses.

By the same token, based on this usage example, we should have a sense for (deprecated template usage) accident. DCDuring TALK 13:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Citation is not really relevant as it is in common use, but I agreed that this is more of a pragmatic reading. DAVilla 06:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
This to me looks like a distinct sense, hence a keeper, DCDuring's comparison doesn't seem to work. Address also has both of these meanings. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
Correction; address has neither sense. I mean what the Hell? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:21, 31 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
I added the two senses; I guess 'street location' which I removed was a very, very poorly worded effort at one or both of the senses I just added. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
I don't see anything new at this entry. What does what you added at address have to do with this? DCDuring TALK 23:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
If someone says "Give me your location", do we really need to have a definition of (deprecated template usage) location? And does "Now tell me the guests." mean that we need (deprecated template usage) guest? I don't think that the metonymy from name or other index (such as address to named or indexed entity (residence, destination, birthplace), which might be includable as a sense in all the main terms for names and indexes, needs to go the other way. Every entity has a name and location (in various locational schemes, no less) and may have other indexings (IP address, serial number). That seems to be a characteristic of the very act of naming or indexing something, that is, part of syntax. DCDuring TALK 00:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • Delete For this to be a distinct sense from "The place where one lives.", it would have to only apply to cases where a home had a street address. As far as I can tell, that's not the case. If the witnesses lived in a caravan, or a tent, or a houseboat, they would not have street addresses, but for the superintendent's purposes, these would still be their residences. As DCDuring says above, it can be assumed that any definition that covers a location also covers a verbal statement of that location. "Write your town in the box" sounds perfectly normal, if slightly informal (there's an example on this website of a herpes clinic), as would "street", "county", "country", "state", and any number of other places that people could be said to live in. Smurrayinchester (talk) 20:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete per DCDuring and Smurrayinchester.​—msh210 (talk) 20:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete per DCDuring, particularly his comment of 00:23, 1 September 2012. - -sche (discuss) 09:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

deleted -- Liliana 08:09, 13 October 2012 (UTC)Reply