Talk:seon

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Etymology 3[edit]

Why is the conjugation table for Etym_3 for sīgan? Leasnam (talk) 14:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: December 2019–March 2020[edit]

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@Lambiam, Leasnam, Urszag I can't find any clear citations for the infinitive sēon "to be". Wright only mentions wesan and bēon. Bosworth-Toller has sēon "to be" in a single citation to "The gospel according to St. Matthew in Anglo-Saxon and Northumbrian versions." (Kemble) where it's glossed "esse", but I wonder if this is a mistake. Furthermore, even if not a mistake, we can't construct an entire paradigm from it. Benwing2 (talk) 09:53, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

The conjugation is largely stolen from wesan. Also, the quotation has þū eart where other sources (e.g. here) have þū þe eart.  --Lambiam 12:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
The there is the relative pronoun (you who art); is the older form of later þē/þe. Leasnam (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Does have any declensions or is it indeclinable like þē. I'd add the articles now but I'll wait for if anyone else does due previous criticism of my entries. - Writend
is declined thusly: Nom. sē; Acc. þone; Dat. þǣm; Gen. þæs; Ins. þȳ/þon. I believe that in early OE the relative pronouns may have been declined (for all genders and numbers (?), as they are in Modern German), but over time the unstressed þē/þe becomes more common (?). I'll need to check what's actually attested. Leasnam (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply