Talk:sick burn

Sum of parts?

This seems to me like a simple combination of sick (definition 6 at time of writing) and burn (definition 5), and therefore not deserving of its own entry. Does the fact that it appears in another dictionary change how we handle it? - excarnateSojourner (talk|contrib) 04:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

@ExcarnateSojourner: If you want, please bring this on WT:RFD after adding {{rfd|en}} to the entry. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 07:15, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

RFD discussion: October–December 2021

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sick burn

I believe this is an SOP of sick and burn. - excarnateSojourner (talk|contrib) 18:38, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

It's nowhere near obvious from the sum of its parts, in fact I had never heard of it. So keep, unless there's something else wrong with it. DonnanZ (talk) 23:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep as creator. It's a fixed expression and, as said above, difficult to decipher from its parts. Imetsia (talk) 23:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

What sense of sick does it use? Sense 4? PUC – 08:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Sense 6: very good, badass. Equinox ◑ 08:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

It is SoP if you are familiar with youth slang. Equinox ◑ 08:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Not everyone is familiar with youth slang. DonnanZ (talk) 11:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

@Donnanz: Not everyone is a computer programmer or a plumber, but we won't add obvious SoP terms for those areas either. You just don't understand the SoP idea at all do you? Equinox ◑ 12:14, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

So I'm everybody's favourite scapegoat. If, say, 50% of people understand the term, and 50% don't, it's worthy of inclusion. Also, the meaning of burn remains unexplained. DonnanZ (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

If you haven't already seen it, you may wish to participate at Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2021/October#New_SOP_policy_idea, which is discussing proposals to codify more inclusiveness of certain SoP phrases. Mihia (talk) 19:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Burn sense 5: "An effective insult, often in the expression sick burn (excellent or badass insult)." - excarnateSojourner (talk|contrib) 16:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Delete, per Equinox. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 11:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Delete. This is more transparent than the current definition would suggest. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 21:59, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

If this constitutes a set phrase (rather than independent or arbitrary instances of people combining two slang terms) then keep. I would have no idea whatsoever what this meant, and little chance of figuring it out from the parts. Mihia (talk) 22:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Weak keep. The most prominent definitions for sick and burn are related topics and would lead someone unfamiliar with this common phrase to draw a different conclusion as to its meaning. DAVilla 04:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Strong keep. AG202 (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@AG202: Please do not vote without providing any rationale. PUC – 09:23, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@PUC TIL there's apparently a rule that you absolutely have to provide a rationale for voting, even though people put Delete or Keep on their own all the time. Strong keep per DonnanZ, Imetsia, DAVilla, & Svartava2 then. That should be a rationale enough, considering you've done the same. AG202 (talk) 09:31, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@AG202: That's good enough for me, thanks. Well yes, people sometimes cast a vote without explaining the rationale behind it, but that doesn't mean you should do the same! I used to do that a lot; nowadays I try to pick my battles, i.e. to vote less and argument more when I do vote, though I'm still far from perfect (case in point, Canadian Forces below: I can't be arsed to articulate why I think it should be deleted). PUC – 09:50, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep per DAVilla, Imetsia, DonnanZ. Svartava2 (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Delete It is SoP from (metaphorical) definitions of sick and burn which I'd never heard of before, but the meaning is not hard to infer even without a comprehensive dictionary like the OED, MWOnline, or Wiktionary, which has the relevant definitions. DCDuring (talk) 02:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, these Google Books hits show collocations with pretty and very that make me doubt that this is a set phrase. DCDuring (talk) 02:51, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Delete —Suzukaze-c (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

• RFD-kept —Svārtava ^{[t•c•u•r]} 06:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC)