Talk:slug
Latest comment: 4 months ago by Equinox in topic Possible missing sense in USMA / West Point slang
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Rfv-sense "A discrete quantity of one fluid that flows through the line surrounded by another." Tagged but not listed. - -sche (discuss) 03:52, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- A good initial question seem to be, does anyone know what this means? I can't quite figure it out. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- Think of a w:Lava Lamp. The slug would be like the colored blobs. Because it's completely enclosed by the other fluid, it would move as a unit. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Right, surely the 'flows through the line surrounded by another' is wrong, the fluid doesn't follow through any lines does it? How can fluid flow through a line? Mglovesfun (talk) 10:59, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's a sense of the word line that we don't have, as in a fuel line. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- ... but even if we have that sense of "line", it doesn't apply here. I suggest we remove "through the line". Dbfirs 10:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- It does apply- sort of... It shouldn't be removed, but replaced with better wording, since it's a critical part of the context (see w:slugcatcher). You'll note that the surrounding substance doesn't have to be liquid (see also w:Water hammer#Related_phenomena) Chuck Entz (talk) 13:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- I believe the "line" here is a streamline ("a line that is tangent to the velocity of flow of a fluid; equivalent to the path of a specific particle in that flow"). The slug in question may be the same as in w:gas slug. — Xavier, 23:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Isn't this an instance of a more general sense of slug? DCDuring TALK 23:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- MWOnline has: "a detached mass of fluid (as water vapor or oil) that causes impact (as in a circulating system)"
- I'm not quite sure that I understand the "causes impact" clause, however. DCDuring TALK 23:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think the "impact" caused is the slug hitting the walls of the pipes or other barriers in the system. Odd way to word it... Chuck Entz (talk) 23:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I believe the "line" here is a streamline ("a line that is tangent to the velocity of flow of a fluid; equivalent to the path of a specific particle in that flow"). The slug in question may be the same as in w:gas slug. — Xavier, 23:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- It does apply- sort of... It shouldn't be removed, but replaced with better wording, since it's a critical part of the context (see w:slugcatcher). You'll note that the surrounding substance doesn't have to be liquid (see also w:Water hammer#Related_phenomena) Chuck Entz (talk) 13:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- ... but even if we have that sense of "line", it doesn't apply here. I suggest we remove "through the line". Dbfirs 10:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's a sense of the word line that we don't have, as in a fuel line. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Right, surely the 'flows through the line surrounded by another' is wrong, the fluid doesn't follow through any lines does it? How can fluid flow through a line? Mglovesfun (talk) 10:59, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Think of a w:Lava Lamp. The slug would be like the colored blobs. Because it's completely enclosed by the other fluid, it would move as a unit. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have added a new definition and provided five citations that illustrate various aspects of the new definition. I think this new sense includes the intent of the definition under RfV. DCDuring TALK 00:22, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmmm. This does not capture the usage in the w:Slugcatcher article, which seems specific to two- (or multi- ?) phase flow through a pipeline. DCDuring TALK 00:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I simplified the definition a bit to give what I think is the essence of the underlying concept. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- The simplification does not encompass the usage in the citations. "Slug of milk" in a teat and "slug of sand" on a beach, for example, don't fit. DCDuring TALK 23:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Definition tweaked Chuck Entz (talk) 00:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- The simplification does not encompass the usage in the citations. "Slug of milk" in a teat and "slug of sand" on a beach, for example, don't fit. DCDuring TALK 23:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I simplified the definition a bit to give what I think is the essence of the underlying concept. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- So... I've removed "A discrete quantity of one fluid that flows through the line surrounded by another.", and kept "A discrete mass of a material that moves as a unit, usually through another material." - -sche (discuss) 03:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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slug#Verb 2 senses:
- "To down a shot." Is this transitive or intransitive?
- "casual carpooling; forming ad hoc, informal carpools for purposes of commuting, essentially a variation of ride-share commuting and hitchhiking." This is a definition for a noun. How is this used as a verb? How should it be worded. Where is it used? DCDuring TALK 16:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- It looks to me like "casual carpooling;" is context rather than definition. The real definition starts with "forming". Chuck Entz (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe something like "To form ad hoc, informal carpools, in what is essentially a combination of ride-share commuting and hitchhiking" Chuck Entz (talk) 22:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't quite fit the two citations I found, which are not yet sufficient for attestation. There are probably more to be found on Usenet. DCDuring TALK 23:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's the verb formed from the last sence in the list of noun forms, above it on the same page. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:36, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't quite fit the two citations I found, which are not yet sufficient for attestation. There are probably more to be found on Usenet. DCDuring TALK 23:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- RFC removed. The "down a shot" is just another way of saying gulp, so I merged the definitions. As for the carpooling, 2 quotes is pretty good, at least in my books. --Gente como tú (talk) 12:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Possible missing sense in USMA / West Point slang[edit]
Apparently "a member of the Corps who is not on a Corps or Club squad team". Equinox ◑ 08:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)