Talk:soy

I'm not quite sure how to note countability in cases like this. I'd tend to prefer "mass noun" as any of these can be used countably, to refer to varieties. E.g., This is one of the best soys I've ever tasted. This even applies to invariant irregulars such as fish (Trout and salmon are among the fishes raised in commercial farms.) -66.26.58.221 03:33, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC) (-dmh)

Problems with etymology section

1. The etymology section notes しやうゆ's pronunciation as shauyu, but this incorrectly assumes that historical kana orthography was phonetic.
2. If Satsuma dialect refers to soy sauce as soi, that's just a happy coincidence and not an indicator of etymological origin. The word for soy sauce was first introduced to the west as "soya" or "zoya" first, not "soy", so it's irrelevant if a dialect pronounces it in a way the word eventually got called as. Also Satsuma is close but no cigar. The trade port was Dejima in Nagasaki, so it would make sense if they traded using the local word for it instead.

--Makkachin (talk) 13:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

(Historical kana was rather phonetic once upon a time. —suzukaze (t・c) 13:45, 17 February 2016 (UTC))

Compare soja#Dutch. Better? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:55, 29 September 2016 (UTC)