Talk:stiff peaks

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== stiff peaks ==

Sum of parts? Plural only? I could well be wrong. SemperBlotto (talk) 09:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Well you'd never try to beat an egg into a single stiff peak. But delete, they are undoubtedly peaks which are stiff. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I dunno, I feel like this is a technical term in cooking. Egg whites that have been beaten to stiff peaks do not have peaks that are "rigid, hard to bend, inflexible" (per our definition of stiff); in fact they can be easily pushed over with your finger. They're merely stiff enough to support their own weight. See [1] for definitions of when beaten egg-white peaks are soft, firm, and stiff. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

It's just relative. "Loud" in music isn't the same as "loud" in aircraft testing. Equinox ◑ 19:32, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Keep. It is also a good anchor for translation to other languages. An of course a technical concept in cooking. Not only stiff peaks, it includes more. [2]. It would be here before. Take A LOT (days) of time to find the right term and the translation --Lagoset (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Delete. A culinary sense may or may not need to be added to "stiff", but one can "beat eggs until they are stiff", etc, showing that this phrase is not idiomatic. - -sche (discuss) 21:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Why not added before to peaks? (plural). Can see the result now?. --Lagoset (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

It is preposterous to claims that this is plural only. This Google Groups search already provides abundant UseNet attestation of the singular.

Out of the context of food preparation you could not be sure what was being referred to. In context it is obvious SoP. Delete. DCDuring TALK 21:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

18 entries, compared to 2650 in the plural!!. It is really strange cannot see a definition in Wiktionary :-?, when you own see a wide use in culinary arts.--Lagoset (talk) 23:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

See only#Adverb and plurale tantum ("plural only"). DCDuring TALK 00:23, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

• Keep. What can I say, I like to cook. I know exactly what this phrase means in that context, and it is not exactly what one would think from saying "stiff" and "peak". bd2412 T 00:50, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
• Keep. It is like medium rare, well done, sunny side up, and over easy. —Stephen ^(Talk) 10:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
• Keep, I'm a native speaker and it wasn't quite clear to me what it meant, even when referring to eggs. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 07:57, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
• Delete. What Equinox said and what -sche said. SOP.​—msh210℠ (talk) 03:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have added a culinary sense to stiff — as I noted above, one can "beat egg whites until they are stiff", etc, so stiff has a culinary sense regardless of the collocation stiff peaks. I've also added an eggy citation, which uses both stiff and peak but not stiff peaks, to peak. - -sche (discuss) 20:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Just to be picayune, cream can also be whipped/beaten to form stiff peaks. bd2412 T 21:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing and editing the entries accordingly. - -sche (discuss) 15:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I would add for comparison that we have a culinary sense for medium and for rare, and that does not preclude our having medium rare. bd2412 T 16:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

It is mainly / huge majoritary / mainstream plural and a culinary concept, very often used. meringue are egg whites stiff peaks with sugar. Time to quit rfd.--Lagoset (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Kept; clear absence of consensus to delete. bd2412 T 13:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)