Talk:strava

RFD discussion: October 2021–January 2023

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strava

medos#Hunnic

kamos#Hunnic

All those 'Hunnic' lemmata are attested only in Greek and Latin texts. strava is probably a Slavic term (cf. *sъtrava), medos may be Germanic. We cannot know if they were used by the Huns. The best would be to create entries for the terms as Greek or Latin (cf. strava) and explain the situation. Please also take a look at the work referenced in the entries (p.452) where the notion that these are Hunnic words is rejected (!). --Akletos (talk) 10:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I support deleting the whole “Hunnic” language from the language data. Fay Freak (talk) 19:51, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Akletos. Per my stance at Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Non-English#gangaba, delete the 'Hunnic' but add/keep an entry under the language of the text in which these words are encountered; compare μέδος. But if we delete the Hunnic language from mainspace entirely, it might be worth having an appendix or some other means of listing words believed to possibly be from this otherwise unattested language. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:33, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps we should create categories like "Terms reported as (LANG1) in (LANG2)"? Or do they already exist? Akletos (talk) 10:22, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Doesn’t exist, and an appendix would be better, as in known languages such as Thracian and Dacian which use to be attested in unreliably transmitted textual loci. The ghost-word appendices seem to be most fit: Appendix:English dictionary-only terms. Instead of “dictionaries including this word” we would have “authors declaring/discussing this word“. Fay Freak (talk) 23:03, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

strava and medos are RFD-deleted (converted to Latin entries at strava and medus), but someone who knows more Greek than me will need to figure out what to do with kamos, noting that the sole attestation of this word is in Greek script. This, that and the other (talk) 06:37, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

kamos also deleted, moved to κάμος (kámos). — Mnemosientje (t · c) 15:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)