Talk:trucker
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Fytcha in topic RFD discussion: March–June 2022
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Rfd-sense Moved from RFV.
Member of the recent protests in Canada. The existing citation could just mean "truck driver". Needs proof that non-truck people can also be called "truckers" if they are involved in this protest. Equinox ◑ 17:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- From hearing this casually it certainly isn't limited to actual truck drivers, but this feels very transient. Theknightwho (talk) 17:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, this doesn't really feel like a distinct definition to me. It'd be like giving protester a separate sense for BLM protests. Binarystep (talk) 00:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- The example that occurred to me was the UK miners’ strikes in the 1980s. People would talk about “the miners” to mean “people that support the strike”, even though not every supporter was a miner and not every miner was a supporter. Feels like a stretch to say it’s a distinct sense, though. Theknightwho (talk) 02:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, but isn't this more an issue for RFD than RFV? Kiwima (talk) 01:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Why is it an RFD issue? I am asking for citations for the specific sense "Canadian protester", as opposed to other senses of the word trucker. Just like any other RFV. Equinox ◑ 03:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly, I think it's an RFD issue as well, as it's just an infinitely productive form of metonymy. I could spend a day trawling old news articles adding a barrage of near-identical senses to every identity or profession that has ever had a protest about anything, but I don't think that would be productive or helpful to anyone. It's just a group being referred to by its primary members.
- In any event, it's impossible for this to pass RFV because WT:CFI specifies the uses must span at least a year. Theknightwho (talk) 05:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Why is it an RFD issue? I am asking for citations for the specific sense "Canadian protester", as opposed to other senses of the word trucker. Just like any other RFV. Equinox ◑ 03:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, but isn't this more an issue for RFD than RFV? Kiwima (talk) 01:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- The example that occurred to me was the UK miners’ strikes in the 1980s. People would talk about “the miners” to mean “people that support the strike”, even though not every supporter was a miner and not every miner was a supporter. Feels like a stretch to say it’s a distinct sense, though. Theknightwho (talk) 02:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, this doesn't really feel like a distinct definition to me. It'd be like giving protester a separate sense for BLM protests. Binarystep (talk) 00:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. This is nothing more than referring to truckers in the basic sense as truckers. bd2412 T 04:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I’m confident that the mob storming the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, contained some participants who were not adherents of Donald J. Trump. So should we give a non-literal sense for “Trump supporter” as “a participant in the 1/6 Insurrection” because of its use as such[1] in media? Obviously not. --Lambiam 08:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - just to make my vote crystal clear, following on from my previous comments. Any group can be referred to in an informal sense this way, particualrly when it simply means "plus those who affiliate with/support them; excluding those who are not involved". Theknightwho (talk) 19:48, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, per above. - -sche (discuss) 03:23, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I thought RFV was a better forum for this (hence my posting it there in the first place), but if nobody can cite it separately from the generic truck-driver sense, and it's come here, then delete! Equinox ◑ 20:37, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
RFD-deleted. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 16:33, 13 June 2022 (UTC)