Template talk:U:fr:may take être
Latest comment: 9 years ago by -sche in topic RFDO discussion: July 2014–February 2015
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[edit]Nice idea, wish I'd thought of this. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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(cf. Template:U:fr:takes être, which is used) - -sche (discuss) 03:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Passer and sortir fit these criteria. Presumably those verbs just write it out longhand or omit it , both of which are suboptimal. Keep. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Though passer and sortir already have usage notes to handle this. Perhaps I was wrong. Any other verbs that need checking? Renard Migrant (talk) 15:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- The entries' usage notes suggest that the circumstances under which passer uses "être" are not identical to the circumstances under which sortir uses "être". If that's the case, this template can't even be reworded to replace passer and sortir’s usage notes (without inaccuracy or loss of information), and — if it isn't needed in any other entries — it seems it should be deleted. But if sortir and passer actually use "être" under exactly and only the same circumstances, then by all means we should reword Template:U:fr:may take être and deploy it on those entries so that they no longer imply a difference. - -sche (discuss) 03:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've asked Lmaltier whether passer and sortir use être under the same circumstances. If they do, we can reword this template and use it on those entries. If they don't, they need their individualized usage notes and there's no point in this unused template. - -sche (discuss) 20:51, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- The entries' usage notes suggest that the circumstances under which passer uses "être" are not identical to the circumstances under which sortir uses "être". If that's the case, this template can't even be reworded to replace passer and sortir’s usage notes (without inaccuracy or loss of information), and — if it isn't needed in any other entries — it seems it should be deleted. But if sortir and passer actually use "être" under exactly and only the same circumstances, then by all means we should reword Template:U:fr:may take être and deploy it on those entries so that they no longer imply a difference. - -sche (discuss) 03:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Though passer and sortir already have usage notes to handle this. Perhaps I was wrong. Any other verbs that need checking? Renard Migrant (talk) 15:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Kept per Lmaltier's comments (on my talk page) that there are at least a dozen entries which can use this template once it's cleaned up a bit. - -sche (discuss) 22:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)