Template talk:fr-conj

link and italicize auxiliary verb

Hi, and thanks for such a nice template. If it was not protected from editing, i would try the following modification, on line 7 :

- | Use the gerund of {{#Switch: {{{aux|}}}|être=être|avoir=avoir|avoir or être}} followed by the past participle

+ | Use the gerund of {{#Switch: {{{aux|}}}|être=''[[être]]''|avoir=''[[avoir]]''|''[[avoir]]'' or ''[[être]]''}} followed by the past participle

--Jerome Potts 20:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd be inclined to have avoir as the default, very few verbs can take avoir or être (perhaps 10 or so) such as sortir, monter, descendre, etc. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Redundancy between fr-conj and fr-conj-table

I tried with {{fro-conj}}, and it turns out if you add subst: to {{fr-conj-table}} in {{fr-conj}}, it just merges the two. It would load the job queue a bit, but right not {{fr-conj}} just serves as a middle step between {{fr-conj-table}} and the actual entries, where no step is actually needed. It would seem prudent to copy its history to this talk page for honesty's sake. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Have we got a process explaining why practising such an action and how refind these archives? JackPotte 18:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I've done it before for honesty's sake. No more, no less. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

avoir default

I think avoir should be the default aux verb used in this template. How to implement that? --Downunder 11:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• You need some sort of "#if:" statement (with more curly brackets than you can shake a stick at). SemperBlotto 11:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Curly brackets scare me (I was mauled by a stray one when I was a kid) and "if statements", well, I'd rather not talk about that period of my life... Either way, I can't edit the template as it is protected. Time for me to get adminship, perhaps? --Downunder 12:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
    • No (to all). Actually you don't, something like {{{aux|avoir}}} would do it. All the ones using être would remain the same, but the ones that can takes avoir or être would need modifying. This is (or should be) the system I implemented for {{fro-conj}} and {{frm-conj}} as avoir is thousands of times more common than être as an auxiliary. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
      • You mean, replacing

être=être|avoir=avoir|avoir or être

with

être=être|avoir=avoir|avoir

right? There's only a handful which can use both, AFAICR: monter, remonter, possibly others. --Downunder 12:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

group

I wanted to add {{#if:{{{group|}}}|{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}||[[Category:French {{#switch:{{{group|}}}|1|1st|first=first|2|second|2nd=second|third|3rd|3=third}} group verbs]]}}}} and then add group= to the individual French conjugation templates to categorize by group. The French equivalents are fr:Catégorie:Verbes du premier groupe en français (and so on). PS I intend to do this in a couple of days if nobody objects. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

This template is never directly used into the verbs pages, so this category should only be relevant for the tenths of templates which are appealing it (Category:French 1st group verbs templates ?). JackPotte 23:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I think it is sometimes used directly (but really shouldn't be). You're correct to say it would only provide a shortcut for the specific conjugation tables to use, but so what? Why not? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Sexism

I'd put il/elle/on and ils/elles instead of il and ils. Makes it broader, and perhaps less sexist. --Type56op9 (talk) 10:04, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

OK it's more complete, we already do that on the French Wiktionary. JackPotte (talk) 12:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)