User talk:Gherkinmad

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translations

here - they're meant for ==English== entries only. It's pointless to duplicate translations of every meaning of every language to every language on every entry. -Ivan Štambuk 23:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Declension should stay, of course, it's just the ====Translation section====. You might notice in future edits the next time you do something conflictive with WT:ELE, AutoFormat bot will tag your entries with appropriate message and schedule it for cleanup.. Gotta follow the rules around here ^_^ --Ivan Štambuk 23:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Declension

Declension tables should be under a declension/conjugation/inflection header, which comes after the POS. Please do not keep putting them at the front of the entry or you will be blocked. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 18:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused. The 'normal' noun declensions seem to be at the side e.g. nefnifall, and in my opinion it looks neater than putting them underneath. This doesn't mean I won't put them underneath if that's the rules. Is it something you do with pronouns? And the proper name for these particular Icelandic pronouns is Honourific pronouns. Gherkinmad 20:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Your confusion is quite understandable, as our formatting for declension tables is not nearly as uniform as it ought to be. In any case, the two current practices are under an L4 header such as inflection/declension/conjugation, or on the right side. There are a number of us who prefer the former and would like to see it become the official standard, but have not made the effort to solidify the policy. However, putting it at the very top is not acceptable. As for the official title "honorific pronouns", that is beyond my level of proficiency. I suggest getting in touch with Krun, an admin here and native Icelandic speaker, I believe. He should be able to work with you on the proper method for meeting the specific needs of Icelandic as well as our need for conformity on Wiktionary. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 05:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

fidwor tigjus

Is this attested or a theoretical construction? DTLHS (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@DTLHS "Twenty" in dative, "thirty" in accusative and genitive, "forty" in genitive, "fifty" in genitive and "sixty" in dative. Gherkinmad (talk) 02:36, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

The only potential issue I can see is that tigjus, a non-lemma form, is not actually attested and lemma forms are the only unattested forms to typically get an entry (if inflected forms are attested; see WT:AGOT) in mainspace. However, I guess one might consider the tigjus here as part of the lemma form of e.g. 𐍆𐌹𐌳𐍅𐍉𐍂 𐍄𐌹𐌲𐌾𐌿𐍃 (fidwōr tigjus) and the other entries you created, which could serve as enough of an excuse to have it in mainspace. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 09:56, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mnemosientje It's true it didn't seem too much of a liberty if tigus is up already. The decades for earlier Proto-Germanic could be an addition as well. This is roughly Szemerényi:

Earliest: *(wīhundą), *(þrīhundą), *(fedurhundą), *fimfēhundą, *sehskundą, *seftunhundą, *ahtōhundą, *newunhundą

New long vowel: *sehsēhundą, *seftunēhundą, *niunēhundą

Metathesis: *sefuntēhundą, *ahtōutēhundą, *niuntēhundą

He apparently has *niun by the second stage – *newuntehun(dą) more "puristic"? Couldn't say off the bat. Would more be about explaining the remaining forms in Gothic, Old English and Old Saxon than particularly adding all these as entries. Gherkinmad (talk) 02:24, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Conjunctive forms of Italian pronouns

You added a column in the Italian Pronouns template of so-called conjunctive pronouns. The thing is, I can't find any other place that mentions these, other than as a synonym for accusative or dative pronouns. Could you say what these are for, and make a footnote when to use it. If you wouldn't do that, I will assume that you just make things up and will delete the column.Merijn2 (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2020 (UTC)