Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2009-08/Add en: to English topical categories
Latest comment: 14 years ago by Malafaya in topic Adding en: is not user friendly?
How to do this?
[edit]Sorry if this has already been addressed. Is there/will there be a bot, who can do all these changes? Or is it manual work? --Rising Sun 09:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Adding en: is not user friendly?
[edit]I'm a bit confused by this. I supposed I've always assumed that people just click on categories on pages, rather than typing them by hand. Typing Category:en:baseball is harder than typing just Category:baseball, okay, but I'd love to see some statistic on how often people type these by hand in Special:Search rather than by just clicking on a link. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- For users who have no clue as what the ISO 639 abbreviations are, which I suspect will be a fair proportion of those who only come here to check definitions, or those who use sites that repurpose our content, how will they know whether to follow the link for en:Baseball, ja:Baseball, es:Baseball, etc.? It is hardly uncommon for entries to have a word show up in the same topic for multiple languages unless it is an entry in a script used primarily by a single language. — Carolina wren discussió 00:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- On the one hand, you're totally right, but on the other hand, I have to hope that most of our users, at least (if not those of repurposing sites), have noticed that we're en.wiktionary.org. And if you're skimming a list of categories that includes Baseball, ja:Baseball, and es:Baseball, and you don't understand the significance of the prefixes, then I think you're already pretty likely not to notice (or understand) the bare Baseball. So all told, I think this proposal solves one fairly significant problem, and only slightly aggravates a few other lesser problems. A better proposal might have solved those other problems instead of aggravating them, but given that said better proposal hasn't been put forth, this still seems like a net win. —RuakhTALK 02:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe this wouldn't be so problematic if a double proposition was made: splitting topic categories between English and All languages and converting ISO codes into real language names in category names. Malafaya 13:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- On the one hand, you're totally right, but on the other hand, I have to hope that most of our users, at least (if not those of repurposing sites), have noticed that we're en.wiktionary.org. And if you're skimming a list of categories that includes Baseball, ja:Baseball, and es:Baseball, and you don't understand the significance of the prefixes, then I think you're already pretty likely not to notice (or understand) the bare Baseball. So all told, I think this proposal solves one fairly significant problem, and only slightly aggravates a few other lesser problems. A better proposal might have solved those other problems instead of aggravating them, but given that said better proposal hasn't been put forth, this still seems like a net win. —RuakhTALK 02:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)