Category talk:Proto-Brythonic language

Classification

What stage of British Celtic are we classifying as Proto-Brythonic? The last stage from which they split? This would be after loss of word-final syllables, yes? Or from earlier stages which still included cases and so on? Anglom (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Lenition of s-/h-, st-/s(s)-

I'm unsure how to list these reconstructions. The Brythonic languages mostly generalized h- from lenited s-, but not completely: Welsh hedd (“peace, calm”), but also sedd (“seat”), both < PC *sed-; Brythonic *seiθ (“seven”) (not **heiθ) < PC *sextam.

The pair st-, s(s)- are more random in their generalizations, which probably means it postdates the split, cf. Welsh safn (“mouth, jaws”), Breton staoñ (“palate”) < PC *stamnā.

Should we list them as found, both *heð and *seð; *saμn and *staμn; or list them under the unlenited form, even if the lenited form was generalized/unlenited form is unattested? Anglom (talk) 04:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Transcription of long against short consonants

I've been thinking about changing the way we transcribe long versus short consonants, since we could more or less do away with orthographical gemination if we instead transcribe lenited -r-, -l- and -n- differently. So, instead of *ammaɨθ, we'd have *amaɨθ, and *prenn would become *pren, but say *gal and *gwir would now be spelled *gal̆ and *gwir̆, or some variant. In every other aspect I think, consonant length is more or less context based. Anglom (talk) 23:19, 22 September 2016 (UTC)