Category talk:cmn:Beginning Mandarin

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RFM discussion: January–April 2014[edit]

See Category talk:Elementary Mandarin#RFM discussion: January–April 2014.

RFM discussion: October 2011[edit]

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I'm pretty sure that Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin, Category:zh:Beginning Mandarin, Category:zh-tw:Beginning Mandarin and Category:zh-cn:Beginning Mandarin should all just be Category:Beginning Mandarin. Clearly a language code isn't needed, a bit like we wouldn't have Category:en:English slang. The same would go for Category:cmn:Intermediate Mandarin, Category:zh:Intermediate Mandarin, Category:zh-tw:Intermediate Mandarin and Category:zh-cn:Intermediate Mandarin; Category:cmn:Advanced Mandarin, Category:zh:Advanced Mandarin, Category:zh-tw:Advanced Mandarin and Category:zh-cn:Advanced Mandarin. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:22, 9 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sure, but how are we going to sort and differentiate between simplified and traditional entries? ---> Tooironic 21:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
Do we want to? If so Category:Beginning Mandarin in simplified script, I believe we already use this convention elsewhere. --Mglovesfun (talk) 10:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, this convention passed, and I do approve it, but for some reason not all categories were converted, so at the moment there are many Mandarin entries which use both the new and old categories, leaving them a total mess. ---> Tooironic 23:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
Per our previous discussion, Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin, Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin in traditional script and Category:cmn:Beginning Mandarin in simplified script are meant to replace Category:zh:Beginning Mandarin, Category:zh-tw:Beginning Mandarin and Category:zh-cn:Beginning Mandarin respectively. I have no objection to removing the cmn from the categories (other categories leave off the cmn, see: 備說), provided that someone modifies the relevant templates accordingly. See 機會/机会 and 回去 for examples of entries that use these templates. I offer both examples so you can see how the template is being filled out for cases where a simplified version exists and for cases where no simplified version exists. -- A-cai 00:47, 12 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
P.S. I agree with Tooironic. The categories are currently a mess and somebody should do a mass conversion to the newly agreed upon format. I have been converting things over by hand for the last number of weeks (so there should be plenty examples of the new format), but converting everything by hand would probably take me several years to complete. -- A-cai 00:47, 12 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
But why leave in the cmn:? Mglovesfun (talk) 06:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)Reply