Talk:βασιλική

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Latest comment: 10 years ago by Saltmarsh in topic Two etymologies?
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Two etymologies?[edit]

My continuous concern (numerous etymologies). What is the difference between the two etymologies? I understand that the two meanings are different (such as in many lemmas in all languages within the same etymology number) but having two, exact the same, etymologies just because the word is used with two different senses (which is true for many words in almost all languages)? Take a look in article for go, where almost every second meaning comes from different sense and means something else, but there are only two etymologies!!!)? --Xoristzatziki (talk) 07:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

You're right, I'm not sure when it was split - but I've merged them. — Saltmarsh (talk) 06:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Just to explain what I was thinking when I split the entry. Βασιλική (the building) is a short form of βασιλική στοά, at least according to Wp (w:Basilica). On the other hand, βασιλική, the female royalist, is just the female of the male noun βασιλικός (royalist). So these two words may have the same origin, the adjective βασιλικός, but they were not formed the same way. --flyax (talk) 11:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I've reverted the edit - I should have looked up the etyms and not assumed what was in the entry! — Saltmarsh (talk) 19:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for my rough language. It was a moment of angryness because of my opposition to split the meanings in sections based on some (partial and inconceivable by me) difference in etymology which does not occur in all senses in all lemmas but selectively in some of them. (but again, take a look at go, all 58 meanings come from the same origin and only the one for the game comes from other origin?) --Xoristzatziki (talk) 05:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't often enter etymologies. The first time I split a Greek one was for convenience of layout - a term with two genders (and probably different inflections), each with a different meaning in English - I thought that it made it easier to create a neat entry. Each case should be considered on its merits. In the case of βασιλική:etym 1, I have entered a shorter version of that given by Babiniotis - even if there is one remote source, there are two routes. (as for go - many of the definitions given could be merged - a can of worms !) — Saltmarsh (talk) 06:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply