Talk:гёрлфренд

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pronunciation[edit]

Fully pronouncing all the consonants seems a tongue-twister for Russians, besides the first "r" is not pronounced in non-rhotic English. It's safe to say that the first "р" (Cyrillic r) is normally silent but is pronounced occasionally. Anatoli 00:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

IPA[edit]

@Benwing2 Something is wrong with "гё".--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:08, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Atitarev So it should be something like ˈɡʲɵrlfrɨnt when spelled гёрлфрэнд? Benwing2 (talk) 06:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes, гёдза works fine, though. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
The problem is with two-syllable words that have ё as one vowel and э as the other. I'll fix it shortly. Benwing2 (talk) 06:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Benwing2 The first listed pronunciation doesn't actually have a secondary accent (no need for disyllabic words) but there's no reduction, like this "гё̂(р)лфрэ́нд". Not sure if it will work with "ё". --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
The problem is this: If the word has ё and all other vowels are э, then ru-translit thinks it's a monosyllabic word (because ru-common converts э to ɛ before calling the translit module, and the code in the translit module only knows about Cyrillic vowels, not ɛ) so it ends up unstressed with my recent changes to ru-translit. The fix is to add Latin vowels to the list of vowels used in ru-translit. Benwing2 (talk) 07:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply