Talk:烏公

烏公

@The dog2 I think 烏公 seems to be more common for Hokkien/Teochew (and match better). I'm not sure if we should write the Cantonese in the same way as the Hokkien/Teochew word. 马来西亚吉隆坡粤语之马来语借词研究 writes the Cantonese word as 屙公 (pronunciation is o1 gung1). Other than the video, do you have a source for writing this as 惡公? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 05:24, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: I only saw the characters in the video. I don't mind moving it somewhere else, since it was after all derived from Malay and not a term you will hear in China. 烏公 most certainly matches better for Hokkien and Teochew, but not so much for Cantonese. I'll leave the judgement to you on whether to split them up or keep them together. The Singapore Cantonese pronunciation might be somewhat influenced by Hokkien. The dog2 (talk) 05:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: Also, is this a verb or a noun? If it's a verb, I don't think it should be in the table. In KL Cantonese, it seems to be a verb: 佢畀法庭屙公一百蚊 (He was fined $100 by the court). — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 05:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: I think it's used as both. It's common to say 著烏公 in Hokkien for instance, which means to receive a fine. The dog2 (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2022 (UTC)