Talk:等一下

Philippine Hokkien

@Mar vin kaiser How do you know the tone of the contraction of 一下 when it's neutral tone? Also, could you also check the example sentence as well? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 01:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: I just based it on the tone of 下 which is ē. The example sentence, well, the English translation is grammatically wrong, the Hokkien sentence sounds weird to me. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 07:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: Isn't it ě in Philippine Hokkien, though? And could you fix the example sentence in anyway? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 07:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Actually, we say 一下 as chi̍t-ē, with the second syllable as high falling. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 10:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: What about the contraction? What tone is it actually pronounced with? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 22:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Well, in the contraction, since 等 is pronounced with the original tone (high flat), and not with a tone sandhi, that means that "一下" would be in a neutral tone, which manifests also as a high falling tone. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 01:06, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: Hmm, I thought so. So high falling tone is how the neutral tone is pronounced in all cases? If it is, I think this would mean 下 isn't actually ē, but just sounds like it because it's neutral? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 01:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Well, the only reason I wrote the romanization as "ē" is because if the origin of the word is 陽去, based on what I usually see in POJ, the tone marking is retained in the neutral tone. As for the pronunciation of the neutral tone in Philippine Hokkien, it's not always high falling in all cases. Based on my observation, it's based on the previous tone, if the previous tone ends high, then the tendency is the neutral tone will be high falling. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 01:35, 15 October 2020 (UTC)