Talk:𧟰

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@Justinrleung - I've noticed that you moved the main entry here (𧟰) from 覅 back in 2017 on the basis that 𧟰 is much more common. However, 漢語大字典 gives 覅 as the main entry, and it has about 100 times as many results on Google (324,000 vs 2,890). Is this a peculiarity to Wu? Theknightwho (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Theknightwho: The Google results could possibly be skewed because of encoding (覅 is in the main CJK block while 𧟰 is in Extension B). It is true that general Chinese dictionaries like 漢語大字典, 教育部異體字字典, 商務新詞典 and 五南國語活用辭典 have 覅 as standard forms, but many modern Wu sources (上海方言詞典, 寧波方言詞典, 蘇州方言詞典, 温州方言詞典, 上海话大词典, 汉语方言词汇) 𧟰 instead. There are indeed modern Wu sources that use 覅 (当代吴语研究, 江苏语言资源资料汇编), so I don't mind moving it back to 覅. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 16:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung I have no preference - I was just surprised that an Extension B character was more common and wanted to double-check. Having said that, 𧟰 is just a straight-up concatenation of 勿要, so would I be right in thinking that people often handwrite/pronounce them as one, but type them as two due to encoding issues? Theknightwho (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Theknightwho: That's possibly, but I don't know much about how people type Wu nowadays. The 𧟰 form might be more common nowadays because it's more common to write horizontally left to right. 覅 was created when things were generally writing vertically right to left. Maybe @ND381 might be able to chime in as to whether we should have the entry here or at 覅. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 17:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

From what I've gathered, both are used interchangably, for those that actually write in "correct" characters (ie. not 上海寧 stuff), though 覅 is more common, likely because more IMEs support it ND381 (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)