Talk:ada udang di balik batu

@Rex Aurorum, Xbypass: Could somebody add a durable quotation (newspaper, professionally published book, parliamentary proceeding) to the entry? And is the definition correct? One dictionary suggests the meaning is closer to "there is a catch". ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo Quotation added. The proverb also translated to 'there is no such thing as a free lunch'. Actually the proverb itself refer to 'the intention' not the doer. Maybe the closest translation is 'ulterior motive'. There is catch? I'm not familiar with the idiom. ―Rex Aurōrum^{｢Disputātiō｣} 20:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rex Aurorum: The relevant definition is current # 9 of catch (“A concealed difficulty, especially in a deal or negotiation.”). Usually it refers to intentional hurdles, tricks or known but deliberately hidden defects. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo Hmm. Maybe the definition can be changed to 'a concealed ulterior motive, especially in a generous offer or deal'. The proverb usually used when someone do something or give something to someone else, then the receiver have suspicion. So it refers to hidden intention not hidden defect. I added the translation of quotation, maybe you modify to more natural. ―Rex Aurōrum^{｢Disputātiō｣} 00:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll have another look, but I actually think it's good as is. Thank you very much. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 17:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Rex Aurorum However, I suppose the definition should include "there is" to translate ada? ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 19:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo: No problem. Yeah. I just checked Online KBBI V, the proverb define as 'there is a hidden purpose' (ada suatu maksud yang tersembunyi). ―Rex Aurōrum^{｢Disputātiō｣} 23:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)