Talk:bakery

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RFV discussion: March 2022[edit]

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I could not find the sense, bakery: baked goods, in OED/OAD, MW, MacMillan or other bilingual dictionaries. The only source I found so far is Lexico. Personally, I’d consider it a transference mistake made by speakers from languages coalescing the meanings business/place baked goods are produced at and baked goods itself. What do you think?
‑‑Kai Burghardt (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is a very common sense in American English. — Fytcha T | L | C 14:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
That's news to me. One can certainly find lots of usage with "bakery" attributively modifying nouns, as in "bakery bread", but not (in this sense) as a noun on its own. Of course, I can't say categorically that such usage doesn't exist, but I've never encountered it. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Chuck Entz: Isn't this the sense that's used in "fresh bakery"? Because that catchphrase is common, also in California ([1]). While this could perhaps also be a hypallage, I think I've heard it in other contexts too. This book seems to support my claim apart from the fact that it (cites something that) qualifies it with chiefly Ger settlement areas. — Fytcha T | L | C 15:01, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
"a colleague said she was going out to get some bakery and asked if I would like some; that was initially a puzzle, because to me, the bakery was where you bought sweet things, it wasn’t the pastries themselves"Fytcha T | L | C 15:19, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Cited. — Fytcha T | L | C 15:39, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Verified quotes. RFV passed. @Chuck Entz, Fytcha: Thank you. ‑‑Kai Burghardt (talk) 11:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply