Talk:clepen
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I don't think this exists; all apparent "ModE uses" of clepen seem to be quotations of or excerpts from Middle English texts embedded within later works. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 01:32, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- 1847 or 1858, Charles Kingsley, "The Red King": "He swam his horse like a stalwart lord / Men clepen that water Tyrrel's ford". It's deliberately archaic (words like y-sold and sweven) but I don't think it's quoting Middle English. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 13:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- That is reminiscent of "Uncleftish Beholding". While the use by Kingsley is not quoting in the usual sense, he is IMO deliberately sprinkling in some Middle English words, much the same way a chef may sprinkle some croutons in the soup. I think this should not count for verification purposes. The verb clepe, archaic now, was used in early Modern English, and yclept has been kept alive mainly through its use as a comedic device. --Lambiam 16:56, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- I very much hesitate to label English words used in English works originally written in the 19th century as "Middle English". If they are used like that, they are archaic, not Middle English. Uncleftish Beholding is more conlangish, more like sample text, not something designed to communicate something in the meanings of the words.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- That is reminiscent of "Uncleftish Beholding". While the use by Kingsley is not quoting in the usual sense, he is IMO deliberately sprinkling in some Middle English words, much the same way a chef may sprinkle some croutons in the soup. I think this should not count for verification purposes. The verb clepe, archaic now, was used in early Modern English, and yclept has been kept alive mainly through its use as a comedic device. --Lambiam 16:56, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2021 (UTC)