Talk:denial of services
Attested?[edit]
Is this attested in durably archived sources? I would have expected "denials of service". Anyway, this can't be a plural of denial-of-service attack, but denial of service. 98.170.164.88 02:20, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Supposedly meaning a denial-of-service attack. Seems like a misconstruction by a non-native speaker to me. Theknightwho (talk) 22:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Widespread use, along with denials of service
and denials of services. Probably bothallhave to be defined relative to denial of service attack. Also, abundantly attestable at Google Books. Of course denial of service(s) also has an SoP meaning. Denial of service(s) also may have one or more definitions in law, especially administrative law, eg, US healthcare regulation. DCDuring (talk) 00:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)- Yeah, but is it used as a plural of denial of service? One denial of service, two denial of services? That's what we have to show for this to pass RfV. 70.172.194.25 01:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Here's a likely non-durably-archived use, a possible use (compare the heading, which uses the singular generically) and an ambiguous use. This, that and the other (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, but is it used as a plural of denial of service? One denial of service, two denial of services? That's what we have to show for this to pass RfV. 70.172.194.25 01:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- The question remains: is this really the plural of "denial of service"? I mean, "colour of apples" is probably attestable but it is not the plural of "colour of apple". Equinox ◑ 04:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- The interview with Christopher Reichert certainly uses it as the plural: he says "Here's how many denial of services we rejected", which can only be interpreted as "Here's how many denial of service attacks we rejected". Same in the Hewlett Packard documentation: "...to create multiple Denial of Services". And I think the academic paper is using "distributed denial of services" to mean "distributed denial of service attacks". But it is certainly a rare usage, and time-consuming to search for. This, that and the other (talk) 10:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- We need to keep semantics, morphology, and syntax distinct. Denial of services is not a plural of denial of service attacks. It might conceivably be a misconstructed plural of denial of service (defined as "denial of service attack"), but it just looks like an error to me as such. We are not much helping anyone decode what they read or hear by having this occasional and predictable error documented. DCDuring (talk) 12:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think you're on the money when you say it could be a misconstructed plural of denial of service [attack]. Whether or not it's an error shouldn't concern us. Having said that, I'm not convinced it can be attested, unless someone does a real deep-dive search. This, that and the other (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- We need to keep semantics, morphology, and syntax distinct. Denial of services is not a plural of denial of service attacks. It might conceivably be a misconstructed plural of denial of service (defined as "denial of service attack"), but it just looks like an error to me as such. We are not much helping anyone decode what they read or hear by having this occasional and predictable error documented. DCDuring (talk) 12:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- The interview with Christopher Reichert certainly uses it as the plural: he says "Here's how many denial of services we rejected", which can only be interpreted as "Here's how many denial of service attacks we rejected". Same in the Hewlett Packard documentation: "...to create multiple Denial of Services". And I think the academic paper is using "distributed denial of services" to mean "distributed denial of service attacks". But it is certainly a rare usage, and time-consuming to search for. This, that and the other (talk) 10:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- The question remains: is this really the plural of "denial of service"? I mean, "colour of apples" is probably attestable but it is not the plural of "colour of apple". Equinox ◑ 04:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I now recall that we do have DOSes and DDOSes (plurals of initialisms), though of course you don't have the opportunity to put the plural -(e)s in the middle of an initialism. Equinox ◑ 22:59, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
RFV Failed Ioaxxere (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC)