Talk:everyone else

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everyone else

Sum of parts, not idiomatic, not sure if it actually even is a set phrase, or just (compositionally) common. --Connel MacKenzie 05:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Else is a strange word; in my dialect at least, it can generally only be used after a fairly small set of words (some-, any-, no-, and every- with -one, -body, -thing, and -where; who(m), what, and where; and or), though I'll grant that in some forms of the language it has additional uses ("else" as its own conjunction meaning "or"; "somehow else" = "in some other way"; etc.). This is definitely fodder for a usage note at else, and may also be a reason to have entries for all these collocations. Unless I'm missing something, I don't think ~21 entries is a huge deal. —Ruakh_TALK 18:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You've got to make all those entries. I just don't know how else we'll get entries of high quality. On second thought, maybe YOU don't have to. But, however else it gets done, you ought to check it. IOW, you missed one. DCDuring 18:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh, good call; I also missed a few others I can think of now. So, I'm not sure. "Else" is a very strangely limited word, but once you know how it's used, you can understand any use of it, even if a non-native speaker would have difficulty determining whether a given use were grammatical. —Ruakh_TALK 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Whatever else we decide, we should place this information somewhere, probably at else. Why else would we have the "Usage notes" section? --EncycloPetey 23:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I certainly don't mind it being put elsewhere (such as at else#Usage notes.) --Connel MacKenzie 08:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

My friend Else agrees with you. Moglex 08:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirect to else, with usage note at the latter.—msh210℠ 13:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Modest keep. There is so much which can't be written with "usage notes" at the else entry. One meaning of everyone else is e.g. synonymous with "the rest", and how else could we add translations? I personally think we should keep it. --BiT 15:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Best place for all this is at else, with plenty of good illustrative citations to show usage. Widsith 10:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Weak delete. "However else" etc. aren't as good a case as how else or why else. DAVilla 03:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep. It isn't clear (although it may seem clear to the natives) which meaning of everybody and which meaning of else apply. not clear for the non-natives. It isn't clear (although it may seem clear to the natives) which meaning of everybody and which meaning of else apply. not clear for the non-natives. --Keene 00:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Keep, pending completion of work in all determiner entries that collocate well with "else". See how#Adverb for my incomplete first draft. DCDuring TALK 16:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

2019 deletion discussion

See Talk:nowhere else#2019 deletion discussion. bd2412 T 01:24, 20 June 2019 (UTC)