Talk:gradatim

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gradatim

“Step by step; methodically.” Kappa 03:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if this has anything to do with “Gradatim Ferociter”, the slogan of Blue Origin (the company that’s supposedly going to start running consumer space flights? The Latin checks out, but I don’t know if it’s really a part of English. Although, I imagine Doremítzwr will come up with three quotes as quickly as you can say, “gradatim”. Atelaes 03:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

There are very many hits on Google books, but almost all are Latin texts. The few in English are just translating the word for apothecaries or students. e.g. from “Dictionary of Latin Synonymes: For the Use of Schools and Private Students” — Gradatim, step by step, and gradually, signifies slowly one thing or act after the other, in measured points of rest or stops. SemperBlotto 11:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but it took me a little longer than <1 second to verify gradatim! ☺   I found an excellent citation from the 1650s — which means that 350 years separate the oldest and newest quotations! I also decided to add a poem of the title “Gradatim”, to add a little colour (well, you know what I mean) to the entry. It took a while to get the indentation right! Enjoy. † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 19:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, if anyone is going to put insanely obscure words into Wiktionary, I’m glad it’s you, Doremitzwr, who is so persistent in finding sources. I killed the poem, as beatiful as it was, as such a thing does not belong in a dictionary. If you like, I think it would be highly appropriate for Wikisource, as I have to imagine it’s out of copyright, the author having kicked it in 1881. I also added the Latin, as the more common usage (even in English, oddly) seems to be the Latin usage. Atelaes 21:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Umm citation #2 appears to be someone discussing (Isaac Newton’s?) Latin [1], not using the term in English, and #3 appears to be discussing some German (?) music terminology… [2]. However that poem might be worth counting as a citation — don’t need all of it. Kappa 01:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Atelaes, for the kind compliment. Fair enough in re the deletion of the poem; it can now be found here.

Unfortunately, Kappa, I do not know the date of the poem, but I’ll look again — I at least know that it was written in the 18^th century. As for the requisite third citation, I will be more careful in my selection thereof. Gradatim is a rather difficult word to verify! † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 02:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that it’s verified now. Of the seven citations now provided, four, perhaps five, are certainly valid. Would eveyone agree? I have also added a Latin citation, and have ascertained the date of the poem as 1872 (so I was wrong to say that it was written in the 19^th century). † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 23:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

And a nice quote wth suitably precise context: --EncycloPetey 01:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• 1898 — The High History of the Holy Graal, Introduction (translated from the 13th century French by Sebastian Evan)

  Now, a platter, broad and somewhat deep, is called in French "gradalis" or "gradale", wherein costly meats with their sauce are wont to be set before rich folk by degrees ("gradatim") one morsel after another in divers orders...

Kudos for the excellent quotation. I have made some improvements thereunto (see mine edit summaries). So, that leaves us with eight interesting citations; a job well done! † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 02:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

If you have information about the original author, I'd share that with sources on Wikisource. The translation there is identified as "author unknown". --EncycloPetey 02:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I’ll do that. † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 02:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

RFV passed. —Ruakh_TALK 18:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)