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RFV discussion: September–October 2020[edit]

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RFV noun sense:

(cricket) A fielder whose position is on the outside, a little in rear of the batter.

This is written as if "a leg" means a fielder, which I have never heard of. It may just be a faulty attempt at the previous definition that I have just added, whereby "leg" is used attributively, as in e.g. "leg fielder", "leg side", etc. Mihia (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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RFV discussion: September–October 2020[edit]

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leg (2)
(usually used in plural) evidence, the ability for a thing or idea to succeed or persist
This proposal has no legs. Almost everyone opposes it.

RFV the word "evidence", in case anyone can see an explanation for it. If not, let's delete it. The part after the comma makes sense to me, but I don't understand what "evidence" has to do with it. (There is perhaps a way in which the separate sense "(figurative) Something that supports" could include "evidence".) Someone else previously added a "needs improving" inline comment to the definition. I added the example sentence to illustrate what I think the definition is referring to. Mihia (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Mihia: We lack a meaning of evidence. It is, as I now try to define, “the property of a proposition of being clear or convincing or thus being a persisting idea as it cannot be dismissed”.
1823, John Gregory Pike, A guide for young disciples of the Holy Saviour, in their way to immortality, Chapter 4, pages 105–106:
The evidence of this proposition is such, as convinces my mind of its truth.
This is the primary meaning that I think many philosophers use; it takes the Latin more literally. The now given definition “facts or observations presented in support of an assertion” is a metonymy. The currently fourth definition “a body of objectively verifiable facts that are positively indicative of, and/or exclusively concordant with, that one conclusion over any other” seems to be the same meaning as this metonymy and should be merged. Fay Freak (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
For the purpose of understanding (or not understanding) the questioned definition of "leg", I'm not sure whether we need to go beyond the everyday definition of "evidence". However, if there is a separate philosophical sense that is not presently covered, then I guess it should be added. I agree that present sense #4 is hard to distinguish from #1. Sense #4 also seems to be faultily or strangely written, specifically in the use of the word "that". Mihia (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Raised at Wiktionary:Tea_room/2020/September#evidence. Mihia (talk) 19:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
As I have heard the expression, if something "has legs" it is likely to go far. There is no implication about the existence of evidence. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:25, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
What Vox Sc. said. DCDuring (talk) 13:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

RFV-resolved. "evidence" has been removed. Kiwima (talk) 23:42, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply